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Post by 00hmh on Dec 1, 2022 9:54:09 GMT -6
The idea behind NIL was a justifiable one to share the wealth that the institution produced by player's talents. Why should the school get such a high return in some cases, the athletes not share.
At one time the scholarship was very high value compensation relative to the time an athlete spent. With FB especially, the hours required and the commitment is far more than it once was, and the money made by the school at higher levels is far more. Million dollar NIL and the portal is changing CFB to play for pay at a higher level school.
There was also a justifiable motive to allow players from poor backgrounds to supplement scholarship money and improve their life style at school relative to other students who might have better parental support or could use their time away from classes to take jobs.
Creating student millionaires seems to have gone a bit far on that count. I do agree with income sharing up to a point, although I'm not sure students working to support owning a car or having an apartment off campus is all that important or desirable for their education. I've seen generations of students who take out student loans or take jobs (often hurting their academics) in order to live better at school. Like it or not, it's a social norm. Still. Neither is it particularly desirable to have the CFB staff paid higher than the best professors or other University employees in terms of education and research mission of the university.
But, whether there is a "need" or not, you nail it when you point to million dollar outside income as a problem for our level.
It distorts everything.
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Post by 00hmh on Dec 1, 2022 9:58:26 GMT -6
What about fan experience? If we are now changing CFB to a semi-pro model(or maybe just plain pro at P5 schools), there are consequences.
Even to the fans there is a real question about maintaining competitive balance and the value of having student athletes and providing a level playing field for competition which is differentiated by that status of player.
D3 FB is in many ways just as enjoyable and valuable to the students and alumni. Big time CFB is a spectacle, I love seeing the big rivalry game before 75,000 plus fans. But that isn't BSU. And I have to admit there are ways I prefer a Monon Bell game on a Saturday afternoon in Crawfordsville in a small stadium to the typical Oaken Bucket game in a half filled stadium with nobody really caring anymore about the outcome. (OR. for that matter even some of our BSU rivalries late at night in November made for TV.)
We don't belong in either category, but right we are in limbo until some kind of shake out produces sanity.
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Post by Lurkin McGurkin on Dec 1, 2022 10:25:10 GMT -6
What's really going to become an issue (if it hasn't already) is the external influences will be through the stratosphere.
Murphy Mafia pays Jimmy Athlete a couple mill as part of an NIL deal. Totally legit. Murphy wants Jimmy to lay off a game, to influence the spread. Who would ever know?
Then there is the aspect of 19 year olds having tons of cash, especially if they've never had money before. They have no concept of what to do, so they do stupid things. That's not new, but it's magnified by the amount of money they can spend on those stupid things.
Then there's the issue of hangers-on. Jimmy's best buddy Johnny from the 'hood can be a bad influence on Jimmy. Jimmy gives Johnny money so he doesn't feel like he's abandoning his friend. Johnny takes advantage. Johnny gets involved with the wrong people, and next thing you know, Jimmy's involved too.
We're going to see a new Golden Age of organized crime.
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Post by CallingBS on Dec 1, 2022 12:40:14 GMT -6
What's really going to become an issue (if it hasn't already) is the external influences will be through the stratosphere. Murphy Mafia pays Jimmy Athlete a couple mill as part of an NIL deal. Totally legit. Murphy wants Jimmy to lay off a game, to influence the spread. Who would ever know? Then there is the aspect of 19 year olds having tons of cash, especially if they've never had money before. They have no concept of what to do, so they do stupid things. That's not new, but it's magnified by the amount of money they can spend on those stupid things. Then there's the issue of hangers-on. Jimmy's best buddy Johnny from the 'hood can be a bad influence on Jimmy. Jimmy gives Johnny money so he doesn't feel like he's abandoning his friend. Johnny takes advantage. Johnny gets involved with the wrong people, and next thing you know, Jimmy's involved too. We're going to see a new Golden Age of organized crime. 100% The scars of this will run deep |
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Post by david75bsu on Dec 1, 2022 13:43:24 GMT -6
The idea of NIL is not based upon the reality of 95% of all schools who have a football team. All but a very few make money - Ball State and the MAC are prime examples. Student fees underwrite our football team. If you take the cost of facilities and facility maintenance, coaches and support staff, you quickly see how fortunate these students (and they are students) and how much they receive for playing a game! I love Ball State football and basketball, but these students receive a lot of support, far more than any other student on campus. Someone made a comment that if you receive mooney, you should not be eligible for a scholarship - I agree 100% with this statement. When you let government and the courts start setting the direction of college football, you ruin the sport for everyone - all colleges are not the Texas Longhorns nor the Ohio State Buckeyes!
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Post by 00hmh on Dec 1, 2022 15:51:29 GMT -6
Depends on how much money...limited money OK with me.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Dec 1, 2022 16:39:26 GMT -6
Well all athletes all ready get a monthly stipen to spend however. Our tax dollars are already paying for that
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Post by 00hmh on Dec 1, 2022 16:59:00 GMT -6
Well all athletes all ready get a monthly stipen to spend however. Our tax dollars are already paying for that The stipend really helps, but I object to the NIL when it produces a case where the athlete gets big money. That is too big an advantage to the big schools and changes CFB too much.
A little pocket money where the University makes money on FB is just fine. probably a fair share of their economic benefit to the institution. If we are stupid enough to lose money big time, small excess going to the athlete is OK with me. Milking the student athlete to help with a deficit is questionable...
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Post by rmcalhoun on Dec 1, 2022 17:49:56 GMT -6
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Post by 00hmh on Dec 1, 2022 18:08:33 GMT -6
Right, it's a great idea, but voluntary, and too expensive for schools like BSU in many cases. |
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