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May 8, 2023 17:40:57 GMT -6
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Post by 00hmh on May 8, 2023 17:40:57 GMT -6
Cleary left because he wasn't going to play. Failed potential. Looked good but never could defend, and was really in sync on offense. Good recruit, talent, but could not use it. A lot of JUCO players have that happen. Poor coaching, all run and gun offense, AAU style. Cleary graduated over the weekend. I was hoping to see Hendrix do the same sadly he did not Hendricks' ceiling is a role player reserve. Let's hope he realizes it and has some value. Not holding my breath.
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Post by lmills72 on May 8, 2023 18:25:17 GMT -6
My recruiting strategy in this day and age if I'm a MAC coach: Forget high school kids, you're just wasting time developing players for other programs. Go hard on the portal and JUCOs, maybe overseas kids if you can make those connections.
It seems to be proven time and again in college basketball that experienced guard play wins ... so I certainly don't recruit high school guards. I recruit transfers guards who have the attributes that fit the team I want to create. I'm going to get them for 2-3 years at the top of their game, as opposed to a good high school guard who I'm going to have for 2-3 years while he learns enough to be interesting to another school. The same is true for big kids; if they're good you're just going to have them long enough to make them interesting to a poaching program.
I devote maybe 4 scholarships to ugly duckling high schoolers. A chubby Peyton Sparks. A undersized Ray McCallum. These are players I'm going to recruit over every year, but every now and then one of them - or two - are going to surprise me and be extremely valuable by the time they're a junior, or sophomore ... or maybe even freshman. Maybe, if they're like Sparks, I lose them after a couple of years. But none of the big boys will likely come after my sub 6-foot guards, so if I strike it rich there I probably keep them for 4 years.
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Post by 00hmh on May 8, 2023 18:38:59 GMT -6
Getting two good years from Sparks was worth a scholarship, and we might have kept him.
Sellers? I'm a little surprised he's shopping around. Another year and breaking out, he could write his ticket as a senior.
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Sellers
May 8, 2023 20:35:08 GMT -6
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Post by rmcalhoun on May 8, 2023 20:35:08 GMT -6
yea if we sign a player capable of playing at IU, Texas or where ever and they show it early they are not staying here. If they develope later maybe we keep them. OR if they are like Sparks...he might prove mistaken in his move,recruited over, buried on the bench as a senior. He will play this year at IU, but it looks doubtful to me he is anything but a role player there this year. He will be a role player and it may be a bad move but thats tge risk
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Sellers
May 8, 2023 20:40:04 GMT -6
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Post by rmcalhoun on May 8, 2023 20:40:04 GMT -6
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Post by rmcalhoun on May 8, 2023 20:42:33 GMT -6
It appears where ever sellers lands its going to be a P5 which makes me feel better. If it had been a lateral move or god forbid Toledo Akron or Kent we would have had to ask serious questions
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Post by lmills72 on May 8, 2023 20:48:30 GMT -6
It appears where ever sellers lands its going to be a P5 which makes me feel better. If it had been a lateral move or god forbid Toledo Akron or Kent we would have had to ask serious questions I think it was said by several during his freshman year that he was the most un-Whit-like recruit that Whit ever landed. I don't know if folks thought he was a P5 player but he definitely wasn't the standard BSU recruit at that time.
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May 9, 2023 7:46:57 GMT -6
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Post by 00hmh on May 9, 2023 7:46:57 GMT -6
Bailey looks like a good replacement for Sellers. Good shooter, 6-4, maybe a better ball handler. Not proven, but he's going to get a chance for big time PT, not just a reserve.
DJ is replaced well by Jalin Anderson with similar game and stats in slightly better conference. Probably not the shot blocker, but reputation as a good defender.
Coleman would complete a 3 guard lineup.
B-Watts is similar to, but at least a small upgrade in performance in all areas to Bumb as a guard off the bench.
Sellers, a proven player, is a big loss. But if any one or a combination of Adams, Bell or Brown can step in, we may be equal to last year in the backcourt.
Had he returned we would be better there, with almost certainly more depth. A chance to be in the top group has probably become less likely unless we make a good addition late. Hard to replace Sparks and Sellers.
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May 9, 2023 7:50:34 GMT -6
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Post by 00hmh on May 9, 2023 7:50:34 GMT -6
It appears where ever sellers lands its going to be a P5 which makes me feel better. If it had been a lateral move or god forbid Toledo Akron or Kent we would have had to ask serious questions I think it was said by several during his freshman year that he was the most un-Whit-like recruit that Whit ever landed. I don't know if folks thought he was a P5 player but he definitely wasn't the standard BSU recruit at that time. Definitely a surprise get from the South. Whit had pretty good recruiting his last two classes.
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May 9, 2023 8:48:34 GMT -6
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Post by rmcalhoun on May 9, 2023 8:48:34 GMT -6
Bailey looks like a good replacement for Sellers. Good shooter, 6-4, maybe a better ball handler. Not proven, but he's going to get a chance for big time PT, not just a reserve. DJ is replaced well by Jalin Anderson with similar game and stats in slightly better conference. Probably not the shot blocker, but reputation as a good defender. Coleman would complete a 3 guard lineup. B-Watts is similar to, but at least a small upgrade in performance in all areas to Bumb as a guard off the bench. Sellers, a proven player, is a big loss. But if any one or a combination of Adams, Bell or Brown can step in, we may be equal to last year in the backcourt. Had he returned we would be better there, with almost certainly more depth. A chance to be in the top group has probably become less likely unless we make a good addition late. Hard to replace Sparks and Sellers. Your thoughts are good on paper but i keep going back to why no one else was offering these guys
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Post by 00hmh on May 9, 2023 9:39:44 GMT -6
Bailey looks like a good replacement for Sellers. Good shooter, 6-4, maybe a better ball handler. Not proven, but he's going to get a chance for big time PT, not just a reserve. DJ is replaced well by Jalin Anderson with similar game and stats in slightly better conference. Probably not the shot blocker, but reputation as a good defender. Coleman would complete a 3 guard lineup. B-Watts is similar to, but at least a small upgrade in performance in all areas to Bumb as a guard off the bench. Sellers, a proven player, is a big loss. But if any one or a combination of Adams, Bell or Brown can step in, we may be equal to last year in the backcourt. Had he returned we would be better there, with almost certainly more depth. A chance to be in the top group has probably become less likely unless we make a good addition late. Hard to replace Sparks and Sellers. Your thoughts are good on paper but i keep going back to why no one else was offering these guys The transfers are all sound enough, and the most important, probably enough there we don't crash and burn.
Adams, Bell and Brown I know less about, except Brown who was recruited by a number of schools who lost interest as he just did not reach his potential as a senior. Don't think there is a problem with raw talent with any of them, so your guess is as good as mine about why there may not have been earlier offers for last years freshmen, you are right they are still ciphers. But they are still on the roster, so probably not academic. Bell we know needed physical development and as I recall Adams had an injury issues.
If we are going to be top part of the MAC we will need freshman and sophomores to do a lot. Our freshman look like a good group, but it is never good when you have to have freshmen over achieve.
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May 9, 2023 13:39:00 GMT -6
Post by williamtsherman on May 9, 2023 13:39:00 GMT -6
I think I am basically in line with that assessment of the roster. Probably wont crash and burn, by which I mean we wont end up down in the 300's with the real refuse of the conference.
However, last season you might say we were a "borderline contender" which means we weren't by any means a favorite, but were talented enough to go into the MAC tourney with a puncher's chance. Next year's roster now lacks top-flight talent with the possible exception of Boogie, who is always something of an inconsistent wild card, and in any case is not good enough to carry a team on his back. So, not even a borderline contender at this juncture.
Of course the transfer portal is still open, but we would need a real impact player, probably a big, to be a contender. And Lewis has not yet recruited a single such player So, it doesnt seem too likely to happen yet this summer.
In other words the roster will be worse than last year. In other words Lewis has moved the program backwards so far.
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Sellers
May 9, 2023 14:48:06 GMT -6
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Post by 00hmh on May 9, 2023 14:48:06 GMT -6
Well, in the age of the portal and with Sellers portalling so late, I can't say Lewis struck out recruiting and moved us back.
With Sellers we'd have likely been equal to last year. Could still be there, if all goes well, not yet time to give up on the team.
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Post by bsutrack on May 9, 2023 15:47:10 GMT -6
If we can flip Seller's scholarship for a front court player, especially that Seton Hall transfer from Indy, Deante Tae Davis, I think we could still salvage something of benefit from this. Basically trade some of our guard depth for more front court help.
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Sellers
May 10, 2023 4:39:12 GMT -6
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Post by 00hmh on May 10, 2023 4:39:12 GMT -6
He's probably looking high major, any good player would be good news. Any position...
Might need a guard if Adams, Bell or Brown aren't expected to be ready to play some.
Can hold the scholarship and hope for late decision or other opportunity.
Word has been we have had a scholarship available for a late signing. Maybe this was always in the cards? Or. Maybe, Hendricks on borrowed time?
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