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Post by fanatic4bsu on Dec 8, 2023 11:04:27 GMT -6
Didn’t Bill Lynch once change offensive coaches to defensive coaches and defensive to offensive???
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Post by rmcalhoun on Dec 8, 2023 11:43:05 GMT -6
ThiS should not really surprise anyone
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Post by ballstfan on Dec 8, 2023 14:02:47 GMT -6
If Neu had any sense he’d add Jamill Smith to the staff. Guy is a Ball U legend and trains a bunch of studs around Indy. I’m sure he’d bring some juice and they could tap into his relationships/network!
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Post by cardfan on Dec 8, 2023 15:04:56 GMT -6
If Neu had any sense he’d add Jamill Smith to the staff. Guy is a Ball U legend and trains a bunch of studs around Indy. I’m sure he’d bring some juice and they could tap into his relationships/network! No.
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Post by sdacardinal on Dec 8, 2023 15:16:49 GMT -6
Why no about Smith?
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Post by cardfan on Dec 8, 2023 15:18:44 GMT -6
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Post by coastalcard on Dec 8, 2023 15:26:58 GMT -6
No surprise, Elliot is the new OC. More of the same coming. Looks like Jeff really put his foot down and now has his decisive stamp on the program. I assume he also got Mike a nice Christmas gift.
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Post by cardfan on Dec 8, 2023 15:44:06 GMT -6
No surprise, Elliot is the new OC. More of the same coming. Looks like Jeff really put his foot down and now has his decisive stamp on the program. I assume he also got Mike a nice Christmas gift. You know how effective rearranging deck chairs on the titanic is!
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Post by rmcalhoun on Dec 8, 2023 15:48:39 GMT -6
If Neu had any sense he’d add Jamill Smith to the staff. Guy is a Ball U legend and trains a bunch of studs around Indy. I’m sure he’d bring some juice and they could tap into his relationships/network! Just not a great fit and from what Ive heard over the years just not a great relationship with BSU.
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Post by bsu0 on Dec 8, 2023 15:49:36 GMT -6
It's ironic we were all educated by BSU and now that we are alums, the school wants us to suspend any thought process we were taught when it comes to this situation. Let it be clear we are all Cardinal fans, but what kind of a response from us do they expect? EIGHT YEARS of the same below mediocre football with more to come and they want us to line up and follow this ''fix'' like lemmings to the sea. Sorry folks it will not happen. As my HOF father used to say, you do a half assed job you get half assed results. The results are in...''You are what your record says you are''.
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Post by 00hmh on Dec 8, 2023 16:08:18 GMT -6
I doubt the AD or anyone expects the OC change to be a miracle worker
They had no choice but keep the HC. Yet they had to acknowledge problems with the offense and insist on some change. If we saw some money go to a real upgrade we'd know more about their commitment.
That we probably don't have the money to do things right is BSU isn't it?
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Post by BSU Card Fan in AZ on Dec 8, 2023 16:08:34 GMT -6
Agree with all. Window dressing and a HUGE disappointment. However, who would take the job when it is likely only going to be a 1 year gig before the entire staff gets canned ? Tend to agree. However, he was "co" but I bet it was Kevin's show. Now he has control and can work his way. I am mildly optimistic we will see some differences in play calling. Let's hope anyway.
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Post by sdacardinal on Dec 8, 2023 17:23:29 GMT -6
Hard to arrange deck chairs when the ship is getting horizontal and the band playing a real moral booster "Nearer My God to Thee". Our football team is currently taking on water because of early season collisions with KY and GA and---next year our Captain has a new/same OC to arrange deck chairs. The fight song very well could be difficult to hear because it is hard to play under water as our mighty little bird disappears into the deep. Many have already jumped ship accepting their fate of never getting into a game or being rescued by the NIL.
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Post by lmills72 on Dec 9, 2023 8:43:49 GMT -6
Not thrilled by the hire and pretty much expected.
The only hope I'll hold out is that Stockton was, at one time, also a co-coordinator for a year who was fully elevated when the failed DC (Elson) was removed.
Stockton and Elliott were both on the same WIU staff that produced a few average to above-average teams. Some folks would have been happy with Stockton replacing Neu. I figure Stockton, if he had replaced Neu, might have made the same move with Elliott ... except he might not have saved a job for Lynch.
Elliott was apparently a poor head coach, but that doesn't mean he can't be a good coordinator.
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Post by david75bsu on Dec 10, 2023 5:39:41 GMT -6
Not thrilled by the hire and pretty much expected. The only hope I'll hold out is that Stockton was, at one time, also a co-coordinator for a year who was fully elevated when the failed DC (Elson) was removed. Stockton and Elliott were both on the same WIU staff that produced a few average to above-average teams. Some folks would have been happy with Stockton replacing Neu. I figure Stockton, if he had replaced Neu, might have made the same move with Elliott ... except he might not have saved a job for Lynch. Elliott was apparently a poor head coach, but that doesn't mean he can't be a good coordinator. Stan Parrish was a n excellent OC for Ball State, but a terrible head coach. Let's hope this works out well for the Cards.
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