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Mar 21, 2024 10:02:34 GMT -6
Post by cardfan on Mar 21, 2024 10:02:34 GMT -6
I was wondering where to send a donation for NIL. It seemed from posts on this board that we didn't have a clearcut location. I sent an email to AD Jeff Mitchell. Here is my email and his email response. Re: NIL Donations From: jeff.mitchell@bsu.edu To: bsu73@yahoo.com Wed, Mar 20 at 10:05 PM Rick, Thanks for the note. Yes, the website for the NIL foundation is out of date. I have mentioned this to their board and will do so again. Our athletics leadership is not allowed to be involved in the governance of this foundation. But donations can still be made to the site, and student-athletes are benefitting from the foundation. Happy to answer any questions you may have about it. Jeff Jeff Mitchell Director of Athletics Ball State University From: ATHLETICS <athletics@bsu.edu> Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2024 1:41 PM To: Mitchell, Jeff <jeff.mitchell@bsu.edu> Subject: Fwd: NIL Donations From: rick foust <bsu73@yahoo.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2024 1:36:15 PM To: ATHLETICS <athletics@bsu.edu> Subject: NIL Donations Dear AD Mitchell, I went to this link (Feed the Bird Foundation) on the BSU sports website and checked it out. Seems that it hasn't been updated for a while; it showed athletes that have been gone for about a year. Is this the current location to make an NIL donation or is there another site? Please advise. Thank you! Rick Foust Class of 1973 Once again, the leadership trying to play by the rules. Not Mitchell's fault but I would bet an ACC school would fix this in a Raleigh-minute. We're just too damned ethical to be competitive.... |
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NIL
Mar 21, 2024 10:42:04 GMT -6
Post by 00hmh on Mar 21, 2024 10:42:04 GMT -6
I was wondering where to send a donation for NIL. It seemed from posts on this board that we didn't have a clearcut location. I sent an email to AD Jeff Mitchell. Here is my email and his email response. Once again, the leadership trying to play by the rules. Not Mitchell's fault but I would bet an ACC school would fix this in a Raleigh-minute. Don't blame our AD or administration here.
It's not a matter of our administration being too ethical. An ACC school would have an NIL collective that was setup better and maintained, that had a website that worked better.
The ACC school AD would not control that website directly there either. If it wasn't working, he'd have made his request to the NIL collective before this, perhaps, simply because he'd have had a lot more people looking for that site...
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Mar 21, 2024 11:03:21 GMT -6
Post by sdacardinal on Mar 21, 2024 11:03:21 GMT -6
Who are the people that govern Feed the Bird foundation? what are their names?
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NIL
Mar 21, 2024 12:06:44 GMT -6
Post by bsu73 on Mar 21, 2024 12:06:44 GMT -6
Who are the people that govern Feed the Bird foundation? what are their names? Dave Heeter, Director & President EVP, Northwest Corporate Ambassador & Management Consultant, Northwest Bank James Blackwell, Director, Secretary & Treasurer Director, Erie County, NY Equal Employment Opportunity Ken Briner, Director Senior Executive, Muncie Power Products Inc., Retired Past Director, Ball State University Foundation Board Wm Craig Dobbs, Director Managing Director, Private Wealth Management, Institutional Consulting Director, The Dobbs Group Daniel Towriss, Director Chief Executive Officer & President of Group 1001 |
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NIL
Mar 21, 2024 12:42:56 GMT -6
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Post by rmcalhoun on Mar 21, 2024 12:42:56 GMT -6
Once again, the leadership trying to play by the rules. Not Mitchell's fault but I would bet an ACC school would fix this in a Raleigh-minute. Don't blame our AD or administration here.
It's not a matter of our administration being too ethical. An ACC school would have an NIL collective that was setup better and maintained, that had a website that worked better.
The ACC school AD would not control that website directly there either. If it wasn't working, he'd have made his request to the NIL collective before this, perhaps, simply because he'd have had a lot more people looking for that site...
When He said he has mentioned it to them before that was because of the email i sent roughly a month and half ago |
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Mar 21, 2024 12:52:28 GMT -6
Post by 00hmh on Mar 21, 2024 12:52:28 GMT -6
Don't blame our AD or administration here.
It's not a matter of our administration being too ethical. An ACC school would have an NIL collective that was setup better and maintained, that had a website that worked better.
The ACC school AD would not control that website directly there either. If it wasn't working, he'd have made his request to the NIL collective before this, perhaps, simply because he'd have had a lot more people looking for that site...
When He said he has mentioned it to them before that was because of the email i sent roughly a month and half ago My guess is that they got very little interest in their roll out. |
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Mar 21, 2024 12:53:55 GMT -6
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Post by rmcalhoun on Mar 21, 2024 12:53:55 GMT -6
When He said he has mentioned it to them before that was because of the email i sent roughly a month and half ago My guess is that they got very little interest in their roll out. They got my money hope they spent it well |
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Mar 21, 2024 13:02:51 GMT -6
Post by 00hmh on Mar 21, 2024 13:02:51 GMT -6
My guess is that they got very little interest in their roll out. They got my money hope they spent it well I hope I'm wrong, and there were lots of others who collectively gave then enough to make a difference. |
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Mar 21, 2024 19:11:17 GMT -6
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Post by williamtsherman on Mar 21, 2024 19:11:17 GMT -6
So schools are not allowed to be "in the governance" of the NIL foundations. I wonder what exactly that means and what is allowed? I have no real idea myself. I would think, at minimum, that school representatives, such AD's and coaches are allowed to talk about it...as Mitchell did in that letter. I would imagine they would also be allowed to mention how critical it is for athletics success. Assuming that's true, then should then be mentioning this loudly and often....as opposed to an AD failing to mention it at all in the summary evaluation of his first year on the job.
There will, no doubt, be a lot of AD's and functionaries that have Mitchell's attitude that NIL is yucky and stinky and they want as little to do with it as possible. And then there will be others who take a much more proactive and aggressive approach....right up to whatever is actually allowed. You will recognize these schools easily. They will be the ones kicking the living shit out of BSU sports teams in future seasons.
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NIL
Mar 21, 2024 19:16:08 GMT -6
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Post by rmcalhoun on Mar 21, 2024 19:16:08 GMT -6
Sherm Im proud of you for a while I think you were also viewing NIL as an excuse for bad recruiting. While we still have to overcome one way or another your opinion of its importance does seem to gave shifted about it
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Mar 21, 2024 19:21:17 GMT -6
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Post by rmcalhoun on Mar 21, 2024 19:21:17 GMT -6
We are failing miserably in the promotion of NIL
Football not falling as far behind as they have had a couple additional big fish who are football exclusive
The feedbird the bird collective is general and for all BSU sports
Many schools have Multiple collectives for each sport
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Mar 21, 2024 19:22:52 GMT -6
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Post by rmcalhoun on Mar 21, 2024 19:22:52 GMT -6
We are failing miserably in the promotion of NIL
Football not falling as far behind as they have had a couple additional big fish who are football exclusive
The feedbird the bird collective is general and for all BSU sports
Many schools have Multiple collectives for each sport
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Mar 21, 2024 19:52:14 GMT -6
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Post by 00hmh on Mar 21, 2024 19:52:14 GMT -6
Sherm Im proud of you for a while I think you were also viewing NIL as an excuse for bad recruiting. While we still have to overcome one way or another your opinion of its importance does seem to gave shifted about it Any AD without NIL resources and low on donor direct funding and budget is in a bind. The direct foundation funds are desperately needed to make up for budget. NIL potentially siphons off booster donations. Which he controls. Yet he's no dummy and knows we need NIL from the same shallow pockets. NIL is potentially a way to find new resources but note that traditional university fund raising for what is becoming part of operations has never been easy. NIL is now player "salary expense" which we've never seen before. It's not going to be driven by AD or President, it's a creature of the boosters. Which we are short of to start with. |
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Post by williamtsherman on Mar 21, 2024 21:25:20 GMT -6
Sherm Im proud of you for a while I think you were also viewing NIL as an excuse for bad recruiting. While we still have to overcome one way or another your opinion of its importance does seem to gave shifted about it NIL is used as an excuse for bad recruiting and will become the number one excuse for bad recruiting. Actually it probably is already. Coaches (and AD's) who play the passive victim of NIL will get steamrolled. And deserve to be. |
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Post by lmills72 on Mar 22, 2024 7:18:15 GMT -6
There will always be excuses. Some will be legit, some not.
Some view the playing field as completely level among MAC schools, possibly even with BSU having advantages over its competitors that have been squandered by poor management.
Others perceive BSU to have significant disadvantages that are difficult to overcome even with excellent management.
I think the reality is that all those things are and have been true to some level over the past several decades. No doubt we've had some bozos in key positions at times. Yet, there seems to be more than anecdotal evidence that BSU lacks what some other MAC schools possess in terms of resources. Then again, maybe that's just poor resource management.
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