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Post by rmcalhoun on Apr 13, 2024 8:42:05 GMT -6
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Post by williamtsherman on Apr 13, 2024 9:17:33 GMT -6
Mitchell has joined code red? Not that there’s anything wrong with that.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Apr 13, 2024 9:37:05 GMT -6
Mitchell has joined code red? Not that there’s anything wrong with that. fixed it but code red was more interesting |
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Post by 00hmh on Apr 13, 2024 9:53:16 GMT -6
More interesting than that nothing burger interview.
Between the lines it looks like ADs are paralyzed by uncertainty with lawsuits, and the obligation to maintain as much of the NCAA structure as possible. Much more a factor for mid majors without resources of course.
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Post by williamtsherman on Apr 13, 2024 10:13:31 GMT -6
Seems like some AD’s are not so paralyzed
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Post by mattg on Apr 13, 2024 11:03:24 GMT -6
Seems like some AD’s are not so paralyzed Yeah I agree with this. AD’s are definitely working with collectives. I get a lot of Florida Gator coverage down here in Jacksonville. They are having a huge event this weekend for their spring game. Their NIL collective is called Florida Victorious. People can join that collective for as little as $15 per month. Money from that goes directly to the athletes. Collective reps negotiate what % goes to specific sports and specific athletes with the coaches and athletic departments. This was openly stated on a radio show down here yesterday. |
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Post by mattg on Apr 13, 2024 11:09:31 GMT -6
I will also say that this collective requires the athlete to perform a service outside of just their sport to receive their money. Autograph signings at other sports events, volunteer opportunities, mentorship with the youth, etc. Florida Victorious sets this all up too for the athletes.
This isn’t some sort of genius plan. We should easily be able to replicate it, albeit at a smaller scale. But UF’s communication between collective, athlete, coach, and general public seems to be good. Big improvement from the Rashada QB scandal that happened before. That collective does not exist anymore.
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Post by 00hmh on Apr 13, 2024 11:14:33 GMT -6
Seems like some AD’s are not so paralyzed Yeah I agree with this. AD’s are definitely working with collectives. I get a lot of Florida Gator coverage down here in Jacksonville. They are having a huge event this weekend for their spring game. Their NIL collective is called Florida Victorious. People can join that collective for as little as $15 per month. Money from that goes directly to the athletes. Collective reps negotiate what % goes to specific sports and specific athletes with the coaches and athletic departments. This was openly stated on a radio show down here yesterday. ADs and coaches can ask. The "some" high powered collectives are NOT mid majors. It is not in the mid majors interest to buck the NCAA and let things become a free for all money game. Those big schools not only have big external NIL but big internal funding. They can afford whatever happens. Mids are so strapped for funding it's not just FB/BB they stand to lose but all their programs are hurt by play for pay. |
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Post by mattg on Apr 13, 2024 11:24:19 GMT -6
Yeah I agree with this. AD’s are definitely working with collectives. I get a lot of Florida Gator coverage down here in Jacksonville. They are having a huge event this weekend for their spring game. Their NIL collective is called Florida Victorious. People can join that collective for as little as $15 per month. Money from that goes directly to the athletes. Collective reps negotiate what % goes to specific sports and specific athletes with the coaches and athletic departments. This was openly stated on a radio show down here yesterday. ADs and coaches can ask. The "some" high powered collectives are NOT mid majors. It is not in the mid majors interest to buck the NCAA and let things become a free for all money game. Those big schools not only have big external NIL but big internal funding. They can afford whatever happens. Mids are so strapped for funding it's not just FB/BB they stand to lose but all their programs are hurt by play for pay. Play small games, win small prizes. I definitely get our situation. I just wish we were being more proactive. Feels like we are still reading and reacting to the situation and other similar-sized schools are passing us by in a hurry with NIL. |
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Post by 00hmh on Apr 13, 2024 11:32:38 GMT -6
ADs and coaches can ask. The "some" high powered collectives are NOT mid majors. It is not in the mid majors interest to buck the NCAA and let things become a free for all money game. Those big schools not only have big external NIL but big internal funding. They can afford whatever happens. Mids are so strapped for funding it's not just FB/BB they stand to lose but all their programs are hurt by play for pay. Play small games, win small prizes. I definitely get our situation. I just wish we were being more proactive. Feels like we are still reading and reacting to the situation and other similar-sized schools are passing us by in a hurry with NIL. There aren't a lot of similar schools doing much more in NIL, not those who started behind us in funding level. There are very few who have big NIL collectives. We have always been marginal or low in athletic giving compared to those similar schools.
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Post by mattg on Apr 13, 2024 11:43:02 GMT -6
Play small games, win small prizes. I definitely get our situation. I just wish we were being more proactive. Feels like we are still reading and reacting to the situation and other similar-sized schools are passing us by in a hurry with NIL. There aren't a lot of similar schools doing much more in NIL, not those who started behind us in funding level. There are very few who have big NIL collectives. We have always been marginal or low in athletic giving compared to those similar schools.
I just googled every MAC school + NIL and each school had their collective listed or the Opendorse NIL platform listed first or second in the results, with the exception of us, which showed up fourth in my results. Could just be my phone, but that’s what I’m basing my “getting passed by” opinion from. Other schools seem to be promoting their NIL more compared to us, especially on social media. Why would Feed the Bird not show up on my phone first given the majority of my googling is BSU athletics? I don’t have an answer for that, but it doesn’t sit well with me. I feel our athletic marketing and communication for NIL has to kick it up a notch. |
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Post by williamtsherman on Apr 13, 2024 13:53:45 GMT -6
BSU athletics falling behind the more vigorous MAC schools?
No way. Who could see that coming?
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Post by prestonp on Apr 13, 2024 14:03:56 GMT -6
BSU athletics falling behind the more vigorous MAC schools? No way. Who could see that coming? Especially when comes to marketing and technology. |
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Post by prestonp on Apr 13, 2024 14:08:26 GMT -6
Btw, I think I have posted this idea years ago but, why can't our illustrious business school aid BSU Athletic marketing? There has to be better marketing talent there than our athletic department.
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Post by williamtsherman on Apr 13, 2024 14:28:07 GMT -6
OK, just watched the interview. It's somewhat worse than I even imagined.
Mitchell's focus seems to be on PROTECTING the student athletes from this horrible NIL thing. No doubt, quality athletes will soon be lining up to come to BSU and be protected from those nasty people wanting to give them money. Yeah, THAT'S a winning sales pitch alright. I think Mitchell is very tuned into what the players really want with that. For sure. "Help us Jeff! Protect us from NIL money!!!" the athletes will be saying. Lewis better hire more office staff to handle all the calls from prospective portal transfers.
Mitchell is also very suspicions of these people involved in NIL that will actually benefit themselves. The horror! Not like Mitchell himself who is involved in NCAA athletics strictly out of the overflowing goodness of his heart. What's his annual salary, by the way?
Seems pretty safe to assume that the BSU athletics department isn't going to do jack shit to maximize NIL any time in the foreseeable future. Just a question of exactly which MAC opponents will be the ones to leave us in the dust by adopting a more aggressive approach.
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