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Post by 00hmh on Feb 16, 2019 16:43:10 GMT -6
He did take over with a much easier rebuild, an established rep as HC, at a winning program. Could that make a difference? How Akron operates, paying top dollar they should do better. Dont forget they lost almost all of Dambrodts recruits that first year and if I remember correctly they also had a transfer or three. So this guy had to get at least half a roster and he has them in the top 100. You also say they are already according to some rankings one of the "good" teams in the MAC. Weird 2 years You hire a coach with name to a winning program that is what you have a right to expect.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Feb 16, 2019 16:46:53 GMT -6
Dont forget they lost almost all of Dambrodts recruits that first year and if I remember correctly they also had a transfer or three. So this guy had to get at least half a roster and he has them in the top 100. You also say they are already according to some rankings one of the "good" teams in the MAC. Weird 2 years You hire a coach with name to a winning program that is what you have a right to expect. <iframe width="24.200000000000045" height="5.159999999999997" style="position: absolute; width: 24.200000000000045px; height: 5.159999999999997px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none;left: 15px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_51381315" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="24.200000000000045" height="5.159999999999997" style="position: absolute; width: 24.2px; height: 5.16px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1149px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_20988100" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="24.200000000000045" height="5.159999999999997" style="position: absolute; width: 24.2px; height: 5.16px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 15px; top: 196px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_51079669" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="24.200000000000045" height="5.159999999999997" style="position: absolute; width: 24.2px; height: 5.16px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1149px; top: 196px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_4378303" scrolling="no"></iframe> I guess
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Post by cardfan on Feb 16, 2019 17:52:13 GMT -6
So we had no right to expect anything?
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Post by 00hmh on Feb 16, 2019 18:08:25 GMT -6
So we had no right to expect anything? Didn't say that. We should expect slower rebuild. We can hope for more. We are fans who don't have to be rational.
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Post by cardfan on Feb 16, 2019 18:38:17 GMT -6
So we had no right to expect anything? Didn't say that. We should expect slower rebuild. We can hope for more. We are fans who don't have to be rational. At what point do you consider us not rebuilding? How long is “slow?” How long should we or any fanbase wait for results? 20 years long enough? What’s rational and what’s not?
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Post by realitycheck on Feb 16, 2019 19:27:19 GMT -6
So we had no right to expect anything? Didn't say that. We should expect slower rebuild. We can hope for more. We are fans who don't have to be rational. You’re so full of shit. Hope for more expect slower. That’s a championship mantra.
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Post by bsutony on Feb 16, 2019 19:30:15 GMT -6
I don’t always agree with oohmh, but man some of you guys are hostile. Chill out.
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Post by 00hmh on Feb 16, 2019 19:31:43 GMT -6
Didn't say that. We should expect slower rebuild. We can hope for more. We are fans who don't have to be rational. At what point do you consider us not rebuilding? How long is “slow?” How long should we or any fanbase wait for results? 20 years long enough? What’s rational and what’s not? You mean what counts as a rebuild. And surely we were talking about the current coach. The program was not a disaster 20 years ago. It had been regularly at the top of the MAC.
It declined over time after that. During mismanagement with numerous mistakes, from it's peak.
Had we invested in an upgrade with any coach since 2000 instead of each time going with a budget coach, then, we might not be talking rebuild
We blew it. Then we hired on the cheap again, again and again with no upgrade.
The program is greatly improved at this point over when Whitford arrived. There is still upside in his continuing. I think he has done about what we could expect, if not everything we would want. So, answer your own question.
I have no confidence we do much better unless we upgrade significantly. A new hire will be better off than Whit was when he came. Should come in and not suffer through as much OJT. But. Long term a lot better? Could be, I don't think that is a big favorite.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Feb 16, 2019 19:37:32 GMT -6
Ive decided to drink this is madness
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Post by JacksonStreetElite on Feb 16, 2019 19:51:45 GMT -6
I don’t always agree with oohmh, but man some of you guys are hostile. Chill out. It’s not like 00 is randomly being attacked. He brings it on himself with his condescending explanations of how everyone is unreasonable.
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Post by bsutony on Feb 16, 2019 19:57:13 GMT -6
I guess I don’t follow these basketball threads closely. Whenever I do venture over here there is a lot of anger and name calling.
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Post by sweep on Feb 16, 2019 20:39:42 GMT -6
At what point do you consider us not rebuilding? How long is “slow?” How long should we or any fanbase wait for results? 20 years long enough? What’s rational and what’s not?
The program is greatly improved at this point over when Whitford arrived.
You may want to wait and see next season before you make that claim. This team has been on a downward trajectory for the last two seasons and next year we may not win 12 games.
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Post by 00hmh on Feb 16, 2019 20:46:26 GMT -6
I don’t always agree with oohmh, but man some of you guys are hostile. Chill out. It’s not like 00 is randomly being attacked. He brings it on himself with his condescending explanations of how everyone is unreasonable. Yeah, I do speak and disagree that things are as bad as some say, point out that the problem is a tough one, not a simple one. If you think differently I'll argue the point. It won't be name calling but if l think the opposing view isn't reasonable, yes, I'll say so. See no reason to show hostility to others who disagree with me.
cardfan raised a good question, I answered in a way some apparently don't buy. But I don't see anything in my post responding to cardfan that is condescending.
There is a lot of frustration here, totally understandable, and leading to hostility. I share the frustration with lots of decisions BSU has made. I do not think this coach is responsible for all that frustration and deserves all the hostility, either.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Feb 16, 2019 20:46:45 GMT -6
I guess I don’t follow these basketball threads closely. Whenever I do venture over here there is a lot of anger and name calling. This is everyday nothing to see here.. These basketball guys are assholes. I suggest just staying over in the football area. We are much more refined and civil
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Post by bsutony on Feb 16, 2019 20:58:29 GMT -6
Lol, noted. I will stop by for some entertainment from time to time.
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