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Post by chirpchirpcards on Sept 10, 2018 21:45:48 GMT -6
Colts didn't look as generally terrible as I feared, but if they are going to win as many as 8 games, Bengals at home is one they should have got. As expected, the offense looked decent, and the defense bad. You would think that the mostly young defense can be expected to improve as the season goes on. Luck was pretty good, but as I have said, he needs to be great for the colts to win.
Didn't see all the game but had a much better feeling about the game planning and play calling. Not that I could have had much worse of a feeling compared to the last few years. Tbh I'm fine with the Colts losing this game (and many more this season). The Colts aren't going to challenge for anything in December or January, so if that's the case, every one of these games we lose in stupid fashion will make for a better pick in the draft next year. This team isn't one or two players away from suddenly contending, and the higher the picks the Colts can accumulate, the better off in the long run. |
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Post by cardfan on Sept 11, 2018 6:21:22 GMT -6
I think that’s Ballard’s plan. Look competitive but lose and get a top 6 draft pick again.
Buffalo looks to be the front runner for the no 1.
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Post by williamtsherman on Sept 11, 2018 11:02:59 GMT -6
Colts blew it to which we all agree, however, I made a prediction when some were debating how good Luck could be again, where I said he could be in the top 5 by mid season..after one game he is 6th I believe in rating. Not that we expect you to get anything straight about anything ever, but Luck is 13th in QB rating at the moment.
But it wouldn't surprise me if Luck ended up in the top 5. He has demonstrated that level of ability in the past, and I think the new offense will promote a high completion % and lower interceptions.
I'm not going to get excited about draft position yet. The colts play one of the three or four weakest schedules in the league, due to being a last place team last year, and due to the AFC South playing the terrible AFC East this year. That plus Luck is going to make it difficult to compete with the very worst teams in loss total. BUT, circle the 10/14 game against the Jets on your calendar. If the Colts lose the games they should early, and then lose to the Jets, they could definitely be in contention for a very high pick at that point. And, of course, if anything happens to Luck, and we have to play Jacoby throw-dump-off-passes-at-110-miles-per-hour Brissett, then the Colts become a favorite for a top 5 pick.
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Post by thebsukid on Sept 11, 2018 15:39:16 GMT -6
Unless the ESPN stats are incorrect it looks like we are both wrong albeit I'm closer than the General...who knew. You talk a lot of smack General from your sofa in Muncie... www.espn.com/nfl/qbr |
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Post by chirpchirpcards on Sept 11, 2018 16:58:08 GMT -6
In fairness to the General, he was not wrong. QBR and QB Rating are two different metrics. www.espn.com/nfl/statistics/player/_/stat/passing/sort/quarterbackRatingLuck is 13th in QB Rating. Also General, I wasn't saying the Colts are going to end up with a top 5 draft pick, but you've got to agree that long term, a 5-win season and the 10th overall pick is better than an 8-win season, a thumping in the Wild Card Round, and the 21st overall pick. That's my reasoning for saying that I'm fine with the Colts losing this game and any other games they feel like choking away during the season. |
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Post by williamtsherman on Sept 11, 2018 18:51:39 GMT -6
Unless the ESPN stats are incorrect it looks like we are both wrong albeit I'm closer than the General...who knew. You talk a lot of smack General from your sofa in Muncie... www.espn.com/nfl/qbrPlease note that your link is sorted by yards per game....not rating. If you sort your same list by rating (far right column), Luck is 13th. This actually represents progress, as it usually takes much less to confuse you.
I have no problem rooting for the colts to lose and maximize their draft position when there is no realistic shot at a playoff spot. In fact, I have obsessively rooted for losses both last year and the suck for Luck year. But I'm not to that point yet.
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Post by chirpchirpcards on Sept 12, 2018 4:01:44 GMT -6
Unless the ESPN stats are incorrect it looks like we are both wrong albeit I'm closer than the General...who knew. You talk a lot of smack General from your sofa in Muncie... www.espn.com/nfl/qbrPlease note that your link is sorted by yards per game....not rating. If you sort your same list by rating (far right column), Luck is 13th. This actually represents progress, as it usually takes much less to confuse you.
I have no problem rooting for the colts to lose and maximize their draft position when there is no realistic shot at a playoff spot. In fact, I have obsessively rooted for losses both last year and the suck for Luck year. But I'm not to that point yet.
Sherm I have no idea what link you clicked on, but the one provided in Kid's post takes you to ESPN's QBR stat. In this particular instance, you seem to be the one who has been confused. By what? I have no idea, but just for the sake of clarity, I've taken the liberty of screenshotting the info from Kid's link. ![]()  |
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Post by williamtsherman on Sept 12, 2018 5:41:11 GMT -6
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Post by Lurkin McGurkin on Sept 12, 2018 6:15:01 GMT -6
But luck is first in NBR.
(Neck Beard Rating)
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Post by thebsukid on Sept 12, 2018 22:06:00 GMT -6
I said rating in early post! Seems like maybe the confusion is on the General’s side!
Where do you go now?!
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Post by williamtsherman on Sept 13, 2018 7:58:41 GMT -6
If you are talking about QB rating, then you should start linking to and referencing QB rating. link This is the official NFL stat that everyone understands is meant when speaking about "QB rating".
You are linking to something different, namely ESPN's proprietary "total quarterback rating", which is a different stat with a different ranking. link Whether or not this is an improvement over the standard NFL QB rating, I don't know, but I do know that this is NOT what people mean when they mention "QB rating".
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Post by thebsukid on Sept 13, 2018 8:31:26 GMT -6
Seems to be confusion!
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Post by williamtsherman on Sept 13, 2018 10:10:54 GMT -6
Moving now this discussion back to the planet Earth, it could happen that intelligent fans will move into root-to-lose mode as early as the end of this month. If the colts lose at Washington (they are 6 point dogs at the moment) AND lose to the Texans at home on 9/30...the season is effectively over. The other game this month is at Philadelphia, then you are at the Patriots on 10/4. However optimistic you might be, surely nobody sees this roster being capable of going from 0-5 to the playoffs. That would require something like a 9-2 run to end the season....ain't happening.
Not saying all this IS going to happen, but when I looked over the schedule I was surprised how possible it is to find ourselves in a "Suck for (?)" season by dawn of October. |
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Post by thebsukid on Sept 13, 2018 13:01:35 GMT -6
General, you are so full of yourself...like you know what and how everyone thinks.....wow! I guess you did not know how me and ChirpChirpCards thinks? Now, certainly your response will be name calling..
The Colts won't lose both but if they do I would concur with you.
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Post by williamtsherman on Sept 13, 2018 14:28:38 GMT -6
General, you are so full of yourself...like you know what and how everyone thinks.....wow!
No, people like you keep me humble by occasionally coming up with something that leaves me awestruck. Like when you recently proved that you don't need a strong post to win because ISU did not need a strong post when they had Larry Bird. I could have never anticipated that argument in a million years.
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