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Post by 00hmh on Jan 21, 2018 14:56:05 GMT -6
You can believe what you want but if you hit a woman you are in the fight of your life, not with the woman but with the authorities...and you better hope it is not with a female judge. That is not to accuse female judges of being biased, I am just sayin'... You may be a little optimistic about how often the authorities are ever able to get in the door, even when called.
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Post by lmills72 on Jan 21, 2018 17:43:56 GMT -6
Right or wrong this is not John smith sophomore who can blend back into 18,000 students. Walker like it or not is a face of our school not sure how you can bring him back without facing some sort of backlash. With todays social media it only takes one person to start tweeting and retweeting and soon the black eye becomes a national story.. Remember when someone dug through Damon Singletons tweets a few years and found one tweet where he called his best friend a fag. Next thing you know this non important tweet is national news. Imagine a real issue with formal domestic battery charges against a player and that player is allowed back.. Just not going to be a good look Right, but from the academic side of things, i.e., is he allowed the remain as a student, the university needs to treat him like John Smith sophomore who can blend back into 18,000 students. How the athletic department/basketball team treats him is an entirely different matter. If the university decides he can remain as a student and he wants to pursue that general studies degree while shelling out $20,000+ a year after his scholarship is pulled, I would venture to say that, in general, the state's ethics do not prevent it from taking money from someone who might be guilty of a few misdemeanors.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Jan 21, 2018 19:19:42 GMT -6
I am not sure what happens if john smith the student beats up his girlfriend if it happens off campus Id guess John smith just handles his own problems. If its in a dorm John Smith probably also ends up meeting with someone and is at least banished from residence halls. If John Smith is allowed to remain a student and foot his own bill then by all means MR. Walker should be able to as well. This stuff happens and while its a bad look its not a death sentence for the rest of walkers life. It might not even be a deeath sentence for his basketball career he just might have to find someplace to start over with a clean slate
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Post by JacksonStreetElite on Jan 29, 2018 9:28:27 GMT -6
Looks like Waker is headed to pre-trial diversion.
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Post by cardfan on Jan 29, 2018 9:44:41 GMT -6
Predictable.
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Post by davebehave on Jan 29, 2018 10:58:02 GMT -6
Looks like Waker is headed to pre-trial diversion. Pretty common remedy for a first time offense. Usually lasts a year; hopefully he remains suspended until he at least proves he can behave the full year.
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Post by cardfan on Jan 29, 2018 11:06:10 GMT -6
In today’s climate with universities and athletes getting off the hook for assaulting women, I don’t think we can allow him back.
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Post by bsu0 on Jan 29, 2018 11:13:34 GMT -6
There are many ''things'' you can let slide but assaults of any kind on women has to stop now. It is time the men of the world stand up and say enough is enough.
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Post by davebehave on Jan 29, 2018 11:25:46 GMT -6
In today’s climate with universities and athletes getting off the hook for assaulting women, I don’t think we can allow him back. I agree and don’t want him back, but what I say means very little. If the program took Tyler back for 3 years, they have set precedent in my mind that Walker will eventually be reinstated.
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Post by cardfan on Jan 29, 2018 11:34:05 GMT -6
I hear ya. That’s the bed whit has made. But, I think the seriousness of what Walker did trumps Tyler.
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Post by JacksonStreetElite on Jan 29, 2018 11:49:14 GMT -6
There are many ''things'' you can let slide but assaults of any kind on women has to stop now. It is time the men of the world stand up and say enough is enough. Aggressive violence is never acceptable to me. I don't care who the parties are.
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Post by cbcjanney on Jan 29, 2018 11:56:40 GMT -6
I would certainly hope Walker's scholarship is not tied up past this semester waiting to see if he's on good behavior for a year. He's already used 1-1/2 yrs of scholarship, following his transfer, for playing 1/2 season with us. If he's dismissed from the team for the near-future, his scholarship is used elsewhere and he's perhaps given the opportunity to pay his own way to BSU for at least two semesters before basketball reconsideration, I think it would become a moot point - he would have very little eligibility left thus he wouldn't stay around Muncie on his own with those terms.
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Post by 00hmh on Jan 29, 2018 12:01:55 GMT -6
In today’s climate with universities and athletes getting off the hook for assaulting women, I don’t think we can allow him back. I agree and don’t want him back, but what I say means very little. If the program took Tyler back for 3 years, they have set precedent in my mind that Walker will eventually be reinstated. That is a weak precedent, not really a similar case in terms of seriousness of the offense. But also. Even if there actually is a good reason to keep him, all the facts and all the reasons are not likely to ever be public, which means the story would live on as a controversy. I would not 100% completely rule it out. But this decision would follow Whitford throughout his career and the administration with pressure on it about sexual assault and the press coverage are powerful negatives. Since that decision under those circumstances would be a brave one and I have seen little evidence of bravery in our administration, I'd not worry too much about them taking a chance on this.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2018 12:19:19 GMT -6
I agree and don’t want him back, but what I say means very little. If the program took Tyler back for 3 years, they have set precedent in my mind that Walker will eventually be reinstated. That is a weak precedent, not really a similar case in terms of seriousness of the offense. But also. Even if there actually is a good reason to keep him, all the facts and all the reasons are not likely to ever be public, which means the story would live on as a controversy. I would not 100% completely rule it out. But this decision would follow Whitford throughout his career and the administration with pressure on it about sexual assault and the press coverage are powerful negatives. Good God, Whitford was an assistant for Sean Miller, he already had a stench when WE hired him. This isn't going to follow him around one way or the other.
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Post by 00hmh on Jan 29, 2018 12:48:43 GMT -6
That is a weak precedent, not really a similar case in terms of seriousness of the offense. But also. Even if there actually is a good reason to keep him, all the facts and all the reasons are not likely to ever be public, which means the story would live on as a controversy. I would not 100% completely rule it out. But this decision would follow Whitford throughout his career and the administration with pressure on it about sexual assault and the press coverage are powerful negatives. Good God, Whitford was an assistant for Sean Miller, he already had a stench when WE hired him. This isn't going to follow him around one way or the other. The reliable voice of negative spin on any BSU sports matter makes a cynical case for the University to go ahead in a marginal case. Why not do whatever Whitford thinks is right, halftime never liked him anyway. No harm done.
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