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Post by 00hmh on Jan 24, 2018 15:39:17 GMT -6
I think only if Teague returns to a reasonable 3pfg% will you see much glowing from anyone. Nope I doubt it.. I bet you hot dog if he hits a couple we are going to hear about the lid coming and he is just too good a shooter to miss forever OK. If you win you get a hot dog plus all the trimmings, if I win, you get two hot dogs with all the trimmings.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Jan 24, 2018 15:42:52 GMT -6
Nope I doubt it.. I bet you hot dog if he hits a couple we are going to hear about the lid coming and he is just too good a shooter to miss forever OK. If you win you get a hot dog plus all the trimmings, if I win, you get two hot dogs with all the trimmings. Best bet ever
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Post by bsutrack on Jan 24, 2018 15:45:13 GMT -6
It was like a company I used to work at where everyone was taught to rely on the "process", not be creative and use their brains to adjust to what they saw happening. Can I take a guess you worked for a retail bank. No, it was an oil & gas exploration and development company. I spent my first 20 years with what is called a mid-major with approximately 6,000 employees. We were taught to think for ourselves, think out of the box and be innovative. Then in 2005, we were taken-over by one of the super majors (60,000+ employees). I lasted 4 years with them. At least to me, their general goal seemed to be to replace experienced, expensive employees with less experienced, cheaper ones. They loaded-up everyone with lots of process in the belief that if the process was followed, everything would work-out fine; basically any monkey could turn the crank if following the proper procedure. In a way in see a parallel to Whitford at BSU. Instead of hiring an expensive, experienced coach, we hired a less experienced, cheaper one. He's immature and doesn't want to rely on his experience of game-time managing (he has little), so he stays with his process, the rotations he has decided upon before hand. He believes if he follows the process, everything will work-out okay. Ever notice how much in interviews he talks about the process? It's his life preserver when the storm hits.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Jan 24, 2018 15:48:05 GMT -6
I agree in many cases about the rotation comments, but I'll point out that Whit isn't as married to the rotations and set minutes as you state based on El-Amin getting a lot more minutes than Tyler and Kiapaway yesterday. He obviously saw that El-Amin was outplaying the two seniors and at least made that adjustment. Remember too, he also sees practices and bases decisions on weighing in stats kept there as well. Playing seniors and not playing freshmen isn't exactly a radical policy, and probably offsets some statistical analysis. Stats don't measure some of the things experience brings. You have to be disappointed Francis is in a funk and impressed with Ish, who has played without completely blowing up, which is probably playing well for a freshman,especially on the road. I want to know when were are going to talk about a freshman being great. When ever we talk about our freshman its always wait till they are juniors or at least they are not killing us. I see other MAC teams with freshman that are key contributors and they are just good now.. I really would like us to at some point get one of those
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Post by 00hmh on Jan 24, 2018 16:07:01 GMT -6
Can I take a guess you worked for a retail bank. No, it was an oil & gas exploration and development company. I spent my first 20 years with what is called a mid-major with approximately 6,000 employees. We were taught to think for ourselves, think out of the box and be innovative. Then in 2005, we were taken-over by one of the super majors (60,000+ employees). I lasted 4 years with them. At least to me, their general goal seemed to be to replace experienced, expensive employees with less experienced, cheaper ones. They loaded-up everyone with lots of process in the belief that if the process was followed, everything would work-out fine; basically any monkey could turn the crank if following the proper procedure. In a way in see a parallel to Whitford at BSU. Instead of hiring an expensive, experienced coach, we hired a less experienced, cheaper one. He's immature and doesn't want to rely on his experience of game-time managing (he has little), so he stays with his process, the rotations he has decided upon before hand. He believes if he follows the process, everything will work-out okay. Ever notice how much in interviews he talks about the process? It's his life preserver when the storm hits. In the case of coaching, almost every coach will say he trusts process. It's practice routine, game plans and so on that come first. Experience may allow more room to deviate, but if you don't have some kind of rotation I'd be surprised. As far as his interviews, I doubt Whitford is thinking much about playing rotation when he talks about that, not as much as other aspects of preparation.
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Post by bsutrack on Jan 24, 2018 16:41:50 GMT -6
No, it was an oil & gas exploration and development company. I spent my first 20 years with what is called a mid-major with approximately 6,000 employees. We were taught to think for ourselves, think out of the box and be innovative. Then in 2005, we were taken-over by one of the super majors (60,000+ employees). I lasted 4 years with them. At least to me, their general goal seemed to be to replace experienced, expensive employees with less experienced, cheaper ones. They loaded-up everyone with lots of process in the belief that if the process was followed, everything would work-out fine; basically any monkey could turn the crank if following the proper procedure. In a way in see a parallel to Whitford at BSU. Instead of hiring an expensive, experienced coach, we hired a less experienced, cheaper one. He's immature and doesn't want to rely on his experience of game-time managing (he has little), so he stays with his process, the rotations he has decided upon before hand. He believes if he follows the process, everything will work-out okay. Ever notice how much in interviews he talks about the process? It's his life preserver when the storm hits. In the case of coaching, almost every coach will say he trusts process. It's practice routine, game plans and so on that come first. Experience may allow more room to deviate, but if you don't have some kind of rotation I'd be surprised. As far as his interviews, I doubt Whitford is thinking much about playing rotation when he talks about that, not as much as other aspects of preparation. Believe what you want to believe, but I've seen lots of inexperienced folks who were in over their heads citing following the process and being just fine. In life you generally pay for what you get. Economy class isn't business class on an overseas flight.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Jan 24, 2018 20:22:51 GMT -6
Anybody talk the kid figured he would have posted at least something by now
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2018 20:49:35 GMT -6
Recruiting trip?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2018 20:49:42 GMT -6
We are 11-8 vs D1 opponents. If we lose to Akron, we may not finish the season with a winning record. Yet the resident jock sniffers will tell us we are lucky to have Shitbird.
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Post by lmills72 on Jan 24, 2018 21:37:46 GMT -6
Remember too, he also sees practices and bases decisions on weighing in stats kept there as well. Playing seniors and not playing freshmen isn't exactly a radical policy, and probably offsets some statistical analysis. Stats don't measure some of the things experience brings. You have to be disappointed Francis is in a funk and impressed with Ish, who has played without completely blowing up, which is probably playing well for a freshman,especially on the road. I want to know when were are going to talk about a freshman being great. When ever we talk about our freshman its always wait till they are juniors or at least they are not killing us. I see other MAC teams with freshman that are key contributors and they are just good now.. I really would like us to at some point get one of those I'd just settle for a senior who's going to play like a senior. You look at a kid like Zabo at Kent who's never done much wherever he's been, but he's doubled his scoring average from last year and has almost doubled this season's average in the past 4 games, scoring something like 22 a game. Would love to have someone like that stepping up.
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Post by 00hmh on Jan 24, 2018 22:36:58 GMT -6
Which freshmen are we talking about? Which teams? It's rare you see a real star, contributing depends on being as good as upper class men and getting PT.
We had 2 freshmen who were big contributors among our seniors.
Moses had good stats as a freshman. Teague last year was a contributor.
Are we really that much different?
If you have a good team it's not that common to even see freshmen playing that much.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Jan 24, 2018 23:22:37 GMT -6
Bg has a freshman averaging 15, Miami has averaging 14, Ohio has one averaging 14, and thats just taking 3 minutes looking at the top 20 scores in the MAC. Im sure if I spent an hour looking at other MAC like conferences I could find many many more averaging around 15.. When was the last time we had that?
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Post by TakeMeBackto2008 on Jan 25, 2018 0:37:24 GMT -6
We are 11-8 vs D1 opponents. If we lose to Akron, we may not finish the season with a winning record. Yet the resident jock sniffers will tell us we are lucky to have Shitbird. Speaking of which, they've been strangely silent lately.
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Post by bsu1 on Jan 25, 2018 5:34:51 GMT -6
Freshmen phenom are rare, especially in the MAC. In our league freshmen can step up when there is a hole in the starting lineup, a weakness, i.e. Zavier Turner, Sean Sellers, Frances Kiapway, Trey Moses.
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Post by 00hmh on Jan 25, 2018 6:37:57 GMT -6
Bg has a freshman averaging 15, Miami has averaging 14, Ohio has one averaging 14, and thats just taking 3 minutes looking at the top 20 scores in the MAC. Im sure if I spent an hour looking at other MAC like conferences I could find many many more averaging around 15.. When was the last time we had that? When we had no returning players ready to go. When we didn't have much scoring. bsu1 has it right. You will find freshmen who start and contribute, but we have had our share FPOY and all stars, maybe more concerning our transfer recruits who you'd expect to get more PT.
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