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Post by sweep on Jan 26, 2019 10:37:22 GMT -6
If anything we have been lucky Moses and Teague are both healthy.
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Post by cardfan on Jan 26, 2019 10:54:28 GMT -6
If anything we have been lucky Moses and Teague are both healthy. And Persons. It’s not like we suddenly are down two starters. It’s two reserves , neither of whom were big, consistent contributors. If we miss their minutes that much then perhaps the starters aren’t all that and aren’t in good enough condition.
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Post by sweep on Jan 26, 2019 11:11:03 GMT -6
If anything we have been lucky Moses and Teague are both healthy. And Persons. It’s not like we suddenly are down two starters. It’s two reserves , neither of whom were big, consistent contributors. If we miss their minutes that much then perhaps the starters aren’t all that and aren’t in good enough condition. Our lack of three point production is what's killing us.
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Post by 00hmh on Jan 26, 2019 11:26:25 GMT -6
Certainly it's been poor shooting down the stretch in some close losses.
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Post by proctorp on Jan 26, 2019 11:46:56 GMT -6
Our roster is NOT of a MAC Championship calibre and has not been for the six years under Whitford. Can we all agree that six years has been plenty of time to shape a winning program? Recruiting has consequences. Time to move on to another coach!
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Post by lmills72 on Jan 26, 2019 12:10:35 GMT -6
Has very little to do with luck.
Recruiting, or lack thereof, and player development/coaching, or lack thereof, are the primary issues with this year's roster.
I don't have an issue with the recruitment and devotion of scholarships to Thomas and Acree while they sit out one year, if they live up to their billing. You can probably do that with a couple of roster spots a year.
But when you start devoting one-third to one-fourth of your scholarships to players who cannot play, you have left yourself no margin for error ... and there's lots of error beyond the injuries with this roster.
The fact that Huggins has not been able to get on the floor 10-15 minutes a game during the conference season is damning to both player and staff. He doesn't need to show off his shooting range or dunk. He just needs to be able to rebound and play defense. The fact that he apparently can't after 18 or so months of coaching speaks poorly for him, but maybe moreso for the coaches.
Nehls is a wasted roster spot at this point. Maybe he'll go wild in the MAC tournament and, if so, I'll be happy to eat those words. But the reality is that right now you probably could have gotten the same level of contribution by holding an open tryout on campus.
The recruitment of both players has been termed a gamble. We took a chance on them. But why did we have to take a chance on them? Because we failed at recruiting. We failed to recruit anyone better.
What we've done with the roster spots of Thomas and Acree is gambling. What we've done with the roster spots of Huggins and Nehls is fail.
Gunn's lack of offensive development is disappointing but again what we need most from him isn't 25-foot bombs; we need rebounding and defense.
Coleman should have been playing by now. If he's capable of contributing at all, he should have been playing. The fact that he isn't playing either indicates he's not capable or is indicative of continued poor roster management by the staff.
The situation we're in right now is more about recruiting/planning/player development and much less about luck.
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Post by sweep on Jan 26, 2019 12:45:31 GMT -6
I flat-out don't understand Whitford's recruiting. Why do we have so many guards/small forwards who can't freaking shoot ?
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Post by rmcalhoun on Jan 26, 2019 12:50:21 GMT -6
Wow you guys are on it today.. Continue on some good stuff here
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Post by sweep on Jan 26, 2019 12:54:23 GMT -6
Certainly it's been poor shooting down the stretch in some close losses. It not just missed shots, we only only took 11 threes the other night. That's absurd...............
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Post by 00hmh on Jan 26, 2019 13:42:26 GMT -6
It's always a little about luck. Very few players are can't miss.
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Post by williamtsherman on Jan 26, 2019 13:55:38 GMT -6
*Redshirting 3 at a time is a lot. An awful lot. That alone puts your roster and depth at high risk.
*Huggins's quality seems to have been accurately assessed by the overwhelming majority of D1 staffs, judging by the near complete lack of interest in him. It would have been a miracle for him to be contributing this year, and is unlikely that he ever will.
*Nehls had 3 years of post-HS playing to scout. He is what he is, and any half-way competent staff would have known exactly what they were getting.
*Hazen has a history of having a bad back, and even if you judge him worth the risk, you had to know there was a good possibility he'd miss time and you should have been prepared for that.
Adding all this together in one season is NOT being a "riverboat gambler". It's more like being the bonehead that immediately takes his paycheck to the casino and then spends two weeks afterwards struggling to make ends meet.
Funny how "bad luck" comes so often to those who take irresponsible risks....isn't it?
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Post by CallingBS on Jan 26, 2019 14:55:12 GMT -6
The excuses are so incredibly lame. Piss-poor roster management and bad recruiting have their consequences, period.
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Post by cardfan on Jan 26, 2019 15:00:14 GMT -6
Luck has nothing to do with not being able to get enough of your guys on the same page on the same day.
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Post by lmills72 on Jan 26, 2019 15:53:52 GMT -6
I flat-out don't understand Whitford's recruiting. Why do we have so many guards/small forwards who can't freaking shoot ? As has been mentioned before on these boards, I think it's interesting that there is no trademark of a James Whitford coached team ... at least a trademark that you would associate with high quality. Are we a good defensive team? Do we rebound well? Do we shoot well? Do we take care of the ball? Do we space the floor well on offense? There's just not any one thing we do consistently well. Remember when Whitford recruited Sellers, Kiapway and Tyler with his first real class, in addition to pulling in Weber as a transfer, and we all thought we were going to have this style of play that featured players at the 2 and 3 positions that could really shoot. Those players had varying degrees of success and all had deficiencies of some sort (Tyler's issues have been well documented), but they could all shoot. And, if there was to be a trademark, maybe that seemed like it was going to be it. But no. We didn't replace those players with similar players. Although we shot the 3 well today, that clearly is no trademark of this team. Six years in, I have no idea what style of ball Whitford believes in. I don't know what his "process" is supposed to produce. Don't you put a process in place with a particular outcome desired? What the hell is our desired outcome? What type of team are we supposed to be?
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Post by williamtsherman on Jan 26, 2019 17:57:38 GMT -6
You want to talk luck? How about the fact that the one east team Bsu plays twice is OU......178th in the nation and 1-4 in the MAC when they aren't playing Bsu. Meanwhile EMU gets #20 Buffalo twice
That really should have meant an automatic, unearned two game advantage on eastern. Try whining to eastern fans about how "unlucky " poor Bsu is
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