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Post by CallingBS on Jan 26, 2019 20:15:39 GMT -6
I flat-out don't understand Whitford's recruiting. Why do we have so many guards/small forwards who can't freaking shoot ? As has been mentioned before on these boards, I think it's interesting that there is no trademark of a James Whitford coached team ... at least a trademark that you would associate with high quality. Are we a good defensive team? Do we rebound well? Do we shoot well? Do we take care of the ball? Do we space the floor well on offense? There's just not any one thing we do consistently well. Remember when Whitford recruited Sellers, Kiapway and Tyler with his first real class, in addition to pulling in Weber as a transfer, and we all thought we were going to have this style of play that featured players at the 2 and 3 positions that could really shoot. Those players had varying degrees of success and all had deficiencies of some sort (Tyler's issues have been well documented), but they could all shoot. And, if there was to be a trademark, maybe that seemed like it was going to be it. But no. We didn't replace those players with similar players. Although we shot the 3 well today, that clearly is no trademark of this team. Six years in, I have no idea what style of ball Whitford believes in. I don't know what his "process" is supposed to produce. Don't you put a process in place with a particular outcome desired? What the hell is our desired outcome? What type of team are we supposed to be? Great points, Mills. We definitely have no trademark. Just whit's analytics and empty quotes. I believe Whit's recruiting has taken a severe nosedive because of how he has handled certain players too - totally screwed Kiapway and Sellers. Didn't manage the Tyler situation well at all. Correcto...now we play a shooting-dependent offense with just one problem - we don't have good shooters!
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Post by thebsukid on Jan 26, 2019 21:25:58 GMT -6
We are done unless Hazen and Ish are back
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Post by rmcalhoun on Jan 26, 2019 21:46:36 GMT -6
We are done unless Hazen and Ish are back I hope your right but man I just do not know if that is going to be enough.
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Post by cardfan on Jan 26, 2019 21:57:29 GMT -6
Will we suddenly get smarter when they return? Better at keeping teams from getting second chance Points? Better attitudes? (Why in the world would you start nehls over kJ unless something negative happened?). Will we share the ball better. Get Teague more involved in the offense? Play better defense? Become consistent in effort and execution? Stop turning the ball over? Etc etc.
I sure hope so, but it seems a stretch.
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Post by bsutrack on Jan 26, 2019 23:13:38 GMT -6
Interesting theory, but I don't think anything negative happened in regard to KJ. I just figure Whitford needed to make some sort of line-up change and he had 3 choices. Start Thompson and bench Persons (not happening), start Gunn and bench Mallers (too much of a defensive liability to start out a game that way), or replace KJ with Nehls. Whitford choose the latter.
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Post by bsutrack on Jan 26, 2019 23:17:49 GMT -6
I suppose a fourth option would have been to start Thompson and Persons, but then who do you sub-in to rest your PG?
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Post by lmills72 on Jan 27, 2019 0:00:55 GMT -6
I've wondered about going with three guards, starting Thompson at the point with Persons and Walton. Teague and Moses down low. So you'd be bringing Mallers, Gunn and Nehls off the bench. Have we tried that?
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Post by officerfarva on Jan 27, 2019 0:15:29 GMT -6
I've wondered about going with three guards, starting Thompson at the point with Persons and Walton. Teague and Moses down low. So you'd be bringing Mallers, Gunn and Nehls off the bench. Have we tried that? My good man, the fact that you feel the need to posit this entirely legitimate question is proof positive that this program - not this year's team, but the PROGRAM - is spinning it's wheels and going abso-fucking-lutely nowhere.
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Post by sweep on Jan 27, 2019 3:58:38 GMT -6
I've wondered about going with three guards, starting Thompson at the point with Persons and Walton. Teague and Moses down low. So you'd be bringing Mallers, Gunn and Nehls off the bench. Have we tried that? I though about that exact same thing yesterday, Walton would do better as a wing in a three guard offense.
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Post by williamtsherman on Jan 27, 2019 9:03:34 GMT -6
You want to talk luck? How about the fact that the one east team Bsu plays twice is OU......178th in the nation and 1-4 in the MAC when they aren't playing Bsu. Meanwhile EMU gets #20 Buffalo twice That really should have meant an automatic, unearned two game advantage on eastern. Try whining to eastern fans about how "unlucky " poor Bsu is Self correction: it wouldn't be a two game advantage, it would be a one game advantage over EMU, since EMU does play OU once and we do play Buffalo once.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2019 16:09:36 GMT -6
We are done unless Hazen and Ish are back Correct me if I’m wrong......did we start a downward spiral of fortune right about the time RMC started occupying those cushy courtside seats? 🤔
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Post by cardfan on Jan 27, 2019 16:34:55 GMT -6
We are done unless Hazen and Ish are back Correct me if I’m wrong......did we start a downward spiral of fortune right about the time RMC started occupying those cushy courtside seats? 🤔 Nope, when the Huggy Bun cut off the man bun. Kinda like when persons cut his hair toward the end of the season last year.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Jan 27, 2019 17:04:46 GMT -6
We are done unless Hazen and Ish are back Correct me if I’m wrong......did we start a downward spiral of fortune right about the time RMC started occupying those cushy courtside seats? 🤔 Hmmmmmm I had not noticed this but you may be on to something but yes lets blame the Manbun
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Post by CallingBS on Jan 28, 2019 15:28:48 GMT -6
We are done unless Hazen and Ish are back This board is exhausting because of posts like this. Ish and Hazen aren't the reasons for our failures, nor will they be huge difference makers if they come back. Thompson is a better defender and handles the ball significantly better than Ish anyway. Hazen would help a tiny bit with depth, but was far from spectacular or a solid contributor.
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Post by david75bsu on Jan 28, 2019 18:40:07 GMT -6
We are done unless Hazen and Ish are back This board is exhausting because of posts like this. Ish and Hazen aren't the reasons for our failures, nor will they be huge difference makers if they come back. Thompson is a better defender and handles the ball significantly better than Ish anyway. Hazen would help a tiny bit with depth, but was far from spectacular or a solid contributor. Give me a break, with the exception of the Ohio home game in MAC play, Ish and Hazen would have more than likely been the difference makers. We are all very disappointed, but downplaying and insulting these two players is poor sportsmanship and not a fair way to talk about these two young men.
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