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Post by reevo on May 27, 2019 14:48:12 GMT -6
Yes, it's EXCELLENT that we're very strong in the MAC, but NCAA Baseball is a different animal than NCAA Football or Basketball, given the # of games played, the geographic hotspots, and of course with different pitchers for different games - you're not really putting the same lineup out there each time. A number of our BSU baseball metrics resemble the Billy Taylor and Whitford basketball years that many on here are critical of loading up cupcakes: - We finished 30W - 6L vs Quadrant 4 D-1 Opponents, and 6W-13L vs combined D-1 Quadrants 1, 2, 3, plus 2-0 vs Division III opponents
- Our non-conference Strength of Schedule was #234 of 299 and we finished 14-12 vs that D-1 non-conf schedule
- The MAC is the 23rd or 24th best conference depending on your reference, of 31 conferences. Fellow "midwestern" conferences like the Horizon and Summit where we typically play opponents are 26th & 27th. The Big Ten is rated 7th (where in 4 games we were semi-competitive) and the Missouri Valley is rated 6th (but we didn't play ISU, Evansville, or any others from the MVC as we do in other sports)
- BSU's rpi sits at #114 of 299 teams, which is not hugely different than where football and basketball resided this past year. Also recognizing that 9 schools amongst the Power-6 football/basketball conferences don't field Baseball teams (and of course that the MAC is a 10-team baseball conference instead of 12 as well)
So I would temper any too great of reviews from the season to a degree .... but of course it's always more fun to follow a winner, and it's great to get back at some of these MAC schools who we find ourselves losing to regularly at other sports.
Good points though it is far more difficult to recruit as baseball is actually better in this state (College Baseball) than football. Very good baseball programs in this state as compared to football as Evansville, ISU, Notre Dame, IU and Purdue have all been good in the last 10 years. This state has some impressive college baseball facilities so Maloney is recruiting against some stiff competition. Going through the recruiting process with my middle son opened my eyes to the quality of college programs in our state. The state of Indiana is producing a crap load of good baseball talent. In fact, you can make a sound argument that baseball has produced more talented players than basketball and football. Watching my two sons play major travel baseball through the years opened my eyes to the talent in this state. Great travel programs and quality indoor facilities has really helped. Also some very good high school programs. My oldest played on a State Championship baseball team and they also won 2 regionals and 4 sectional titles and my middle sons team was ranked #1 in the state at the time of his accident. Little Crawfordsville has produced numerous division 1 players including him. My point to all of this is Baseball is very underrated and BSU is fighting some stiff competition in this state for players. |
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2019 15:35:52 GMT -6
Cards finish #1 in NCAA D1 for “strikeouts per 9 innings”
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2019 5:32:53 GMT -6
NCAA Baseball pairings will be announced on ESPNU @ 12 noon today. No Big10 teams hosting since a #5 and a #7 played in their championship game. Louisville is the closest host. I think IU gets sent to another regional (maybe Vanderbilt or Arkansas), and CMU will be sent to Louisville. Central gets a 3 seed at Miss St and plays Miami FL |
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Post by comet on May 28, 2019 6:47:04 GMT -6
Good points and I have no reason to argue any of them. I will just say at least we were in contention for a MAC championship and thats all you can really ask for.. If Whitford was in contention for a MAC title we would not frown on his scheduling as much as have. If Neu had us near the top and competing in the West we would think differently as well. None of us asking for Miracles at BSU just being competitive with s shot a MAC championship every couple years would suffice most of us
You must not have been drinking on Memorial Day, Rob, cause this really made good sense and is spot on as far as I'm concerned. Being COMPETITIVE in the MAC is what we should look at in all these programs and this is one where we do compete and compete well.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2019 7:23:19 GMT -6
NCAA Baseball pairings will be announced on ESPNU @ 12 noon today. No Big10 teams hosting since a #5 and a #7 played in their championship game. Louisville is the closest host. I think IU gets sent to another regional (maybe Vanderbilt or Arkansas), and CMU will be sent to Louisville. Central gets a 3 seed at Miss St and plays Miami FL Yep. Mine was a guess since IU has a larger budget, and now has a larger travelling fan base (the bandwagon got full the past couple of years). Ohio State (35-25) was the #7 seed in Big10 Tourney, wins the tourney, is given a #4 seed in the Vanderbilt regional. IU (36-21), loses game 1 & 2 of the tourney, and is given the #2 seed in the Louisville Regional. Illinois was out of tourney in two games as well and was given a #2 seed. Michigan (41-18) was given a #3. Big10 runner-up Nebraska (31-22) was given a #3. WTF? Illinois State tied Dallas Baptist for the MVC regular season crown. I think ISU gives IU all they can handle. |
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Post by rmcalhoun on May 28, 2019 10:31:05 GMT -6
Good points and I have no reason to argue any of them. I will just say at least we were in contention for a MAC championship and thats all you can really ask for.. If Whitford was in contention for a MAC title we would not frown on his scheduling as much as have. If Neu had us near the top and competing in the West we would think differently as well. None of us asking for Miracles at BSU just being competitive with s shot a MAC championship every couple years would suffice most of us
You must not have been drinking on Memorial Day, Rob, cause this really made good sense and is spot on as far as I'm concerned. Being COMPETITIVE in the MAC is what we should look at in all these programs and this is one where we do compete and compete well.
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Post by rgmillikan on May 28, 2019 15:28:54 GMT -6
Yes, it's EXCELLENT that we're very strong in the MAC, but NCAA Baseball is a different animal than NCAA Football or Basketball, given the # of games played, the geographic hotspots, and of course with different pitchers for different games - you're not really putting the same lineup out there each time. A number of our BSU baseball metrics resemble the Billy Taylor and Whitford basketball years that many on here are critical of loading up cupcakes: - We finished 30W - 6L vs Quadrant 4 D-1 Opponents, and 6W-13L vs combined D-1 Quadrants 1, 2, 3, plus 2-0 vs Division III opponents
- Our non-conference Strength of Schedule was #234 of 299 and we finished 14-12 vs that D-1 non-conf schedule
- The MAC is the 23rd or 24th best conference depending on your reference, of 31 conferences. Fellow "midwestern" conferences like the Horizon and Summit where we typically play opponents are 26th & 27th. The Big Ten is rated 7th (where in 4 games we were semi-competitive) and the Missouri Valley is rated 6th (but we didn't play ISU, Evansville, or any others from the MVC as we do in other sports)
- BSU's rpi sits at #114 of 299 teams, which is not hugely different than where football and basketball resided this past year. Also recognizing that 9 schools amongst the Power-6 football/basketball conferences don't field Baseball teams (and of course that the MAC is a 10-team baseball conference instead of 12 as well)
So I would temper any too great of reviews from the season to a degree .... but of course it's always more fun to follow a winner, and it's great to get back at some of these MAC schools who we find ourselves losing to regularly at other sports.
If crossing MAC sports, I would equate this team to the 2017-18 Toledo Rockets basketball team that finished 2nd in the MAC to Buffalo. Ball State for the most part with some nonconference exceptions beat who they should just like Toledo did with exception of BSU sweeping them, but struggled to pull off upsets. I would argue that Toledo team is better than every Ball State basketball team since November 2002 and comparatively better than all but maybe 3 BSU football teams in that same timeframe. Through that lens, its hard for me to get really down about this season. Also, Id bet the only time BSU has had a RPI of 114 or higher in basketball since 2002-03 is the 04-05 season. Taylor and Whitford eras do not compare to Maloneys 3-4 better teams in his 7 yr. Theyd compare more to last year's team. |
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