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Post by 00hmh on Nov 17, 2015 19:00:18 GMT -6
All the points made above are good ones why the decision could be simpler than the General seems to think.
Adjustment to college and college basketball is hard. Teague is 6'9" but very thin. He needs time to become a good college player.
He is not a center. Competes with some very good players at forward. Moses, Calhoun, House are better inside. Sellers, Weber, and Calhoun better outside.
It is easy to overestimate the contribution he can make. That could well be the something else the general doesn't see. He doesn't want to see it, he hasn't seen practice. He wants that big talented player we all do. I get it. But. Teague isn't there yet.
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Post by 00hmh on Nov 17, 2015 19:12:10 GMT -6
The conspirators could say that Whitford knows he is in trouble and in a last ditch effort redshirts his "most talented player." So he can then say I just need one more year to get my star redshirt and star transfer into the mix. What a good idea. Why not? If it is true. Whitford is well aware he needs to prove a lot this year. But he should not focus on this year only, but the future of the program. What Whitford has to prove is that this team is much better, and that adding two good players is likely to put us in the mix for a championship, and he needs to establish a sound future with the Program on track. Teague would not mean he had done that this year. |
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Post by williamtsherman on Nov 17, 2015 19:28:54 GMT -6
No, that wouldn't work. Suspicious people like me just dramatically downgraded their expectations for Teague AND their satisfaction with Whitford's recruiting. Either he's not nearly the player we thought, or else there's something going on that makes his ever playing here much more doubtful.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Nov 17, 2015 19:35:11 GMT -6
No, that wouldn't work. Suspicious people like me just dramatically downgraded their expectations for Teague AND their satisfaction with Whitford's recruiting. Either he's not nearly the player we thought, or else there's something going on that makes his ever playing here much more doubtful.
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Post by thebsukid on Nov 17, 2015 19:41:08 GMT -6
Hey Calhoun that was some pretty good s**t I through against the wall.
Many said I was crazy to think Teague would redshirt...not that crazy and a good decision! Whit talked to the player as I predicted...he's not going to lose the kid!!
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Post by rmcalhoun on Nov 17, 2015 20:18:08 GMT -6
Yea your kinda like Nostradamus if you just keep predicting things your bound to get one right some century
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Post by lmills72 on Nov 17, 2015 21:57:23 GMT -6
Wow, at 1-1, I'd says it's a bit premature to begin the "our-best-player-is-sitting-out-this-year" talk for a third year in a row, but I guess a preemptive strike in case things really go south never hurts from a PR standpoint.
I can see only one legitimate reason to redshirt Teague and that's if he's not doing well making the adjustment to college. If that's the case, I'd actually applaud Whitford for making that decision because I think it's a decision made primarily in the kid's best interest, not necessarily the coach's or the program's. And, of course, nobody is going to come right out and say that, so we'll probably never know.
I find the whole idea that our "most talented" player would be squandering a year playing behind less talented players extremely hard to swallow.
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Post by proctorp on Nov 17, 2015 22:29:00 GMT -6
I talked with Teague's father on the way into Worthen last night. Broken foot=Redshirt.
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Post by lmills72 on Nov 17, 2015 23:46:49 GMT -6
I talked with Teague's father on the way into Worthen last night. Broken foot=Redshirt. Then why they just don't come out and say that? I understand the school is restricted on what it can say, but the kid can say whatever he wants and a simple statement that says something to the effect of "because of the injury, my family and I, in consultation with Coach Whitford, have decided that it would be in my best interest to redshirt this year" would be fine. End of story. But, then again, others have reported that he's been practicing. So ... healthy enough to practice, but not healthy enough to play in games? I guess we'll never know everything that went into this decision. Time to forget about our "most talented" player for a year. |
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Post by williamtsherman on Nov 18, 2015 6:22:10 GMT -6
And the SP article, which seems to be based on the talk with Whitford, says "A foot injury sustained over the summer didn’t necessarily impact the decision to redshirt. He's just a really young player that Whitford wants to develop."
As opposed to all the freshman who play, that are not in need of any development. |
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Post by bsu0 on Nov 18, 2015 6:26:36 GMT -6
Could the equation be, broken foot =red shirt= work on academics=improve body=improve basketball skills?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2015 6:37:24 GMT -6
Well, at least we now have bullet number 1 for the annual "We will be better next year because (fill in the blank)" thread which normally starts after the first of the year.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2015 7:30:21 GMT -6
Yeah right it's the broken foot , that's why he was practicing full speed for the last several weeks. In my opinion it says a couple of things, next years recruiting class is way behind schedule and this is a way to pump it up a little and even out the classes. Also it wouldn't surprise me if there is a pending academic issue that would have caused the loss of half the season anyway.
I guess if he is the best player in practice, while still suffering a broken foot, we can look forward to a future NBA All-Star walking out of the locker room next year.
I laughed out loud at the conspiracy notion, not because it isn't possible or even probable, but because I had the exact same thought. This is just a new perplexing decision from a program that appears from the outside to be an unorganized mess of top down nonsense.
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Post by williamtsherman on Nov 18, 2015 7:33:51 GMT -6
Or might the equation be:
14 miserable seasons + 3 failed coaches + recent 18-game losing streak = fed up, cynical fanbase = impatience with recruiting = skepticism over (another "our best player is in street clothes" excuse + happy talk about future seasons) |
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Post by 00hmh on Nov 18, 2015 7:35:32 GMT -6
And the SP article, which seems to be based on the talk with Whitford, says "A foot injury sustained over the summer didn’t necessarily impact the decision to redshirt. He's just a really young player that Whitford wants to develop."
As opposed to all the freshman who play, that are not in need of any development. Most freshmen need development. Practice and painful experience in games provide that if they do not red shirt. There are both pluses and minuses for them and for the team in the decision to red shirt. They miss game time, maybe not much of that, we miss the painful errors they would make in the game, and the good plays they might make too. In this case we have enough good players who will make good plays at his position and the loss to the team is minimized. Since his development needs are both physical and in adjustment to the college game, we would see the upside only later in the season, and the physical development can be greater. Extra weight room work, different schedule with time shifted from game preparation, travel, and so on to the things he needs. Pluses and minuses both. Don't exaggerate the downside here. |
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