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Post by cardfan on Dec 29, 2019 20:49:33 GMT -6
Ballard would have to package picks and move up to get a QB who could start as a rookie. Or do you take a chance on 90 year old Phillip Rivers?
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Post by Lurkin McGurkin on Dec 29, 2019 21:12:42 GMT -6
Brissett's performance today essentially eliminated him as a starting QB. He was horrible.
The #13 spot still gives you some options. Maybe a trade package for a legit QB.
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Post by bsutony on Dec 29, 2019 21:16:34 GMT -6
Brissett is a solid backup QB. Nothing more.
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Post by chirpchirpcards on Dec 29, 2019 21:25:13 GMT -6
18 of the 32 starting quarterbacks in week 17 were drafted later than the #13 overall pick. 8 of those 18 are on playoff teams.
I don't really know if that means anything, it was just an interesting stat to me.
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Post by 00hmh on Dec 30, 2019 0:20:01 GMT -6
18 of the 32 starting quarterbacks in week 17 were drafted later than the #13 overall pick. 8 of those 18 are on playoff teams. I don't really know if that means anything, it was just an interesting stat to me. Probably right. How many at 13 helped right away? And how many later picks failed? Next year Brisset pretty likely the starter. |
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Post by cardfan on Dec 30, 2019 3:56:30 GMT -6
Brissett will be the starter next season unless the Colts bring in a free agent starter quality QB. Or pull off the most stunning trade ever with the Bengals to move up to the 1 spot to to Joe Burrow. And that ain’t happening.
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Post by williamtsherman on Dec 30, 2019 6:57:05 GMT -6
Even casual fans now understand the colts are going nowhere with Brissett. Going into another year with him as the starter would be a disaster for the colt's brand. I think the colts probably realize this. Most fans do not have the fetish for mediocrity that some on this board do.
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Post by 00hmh on Dec 30, 2019 7:12:36 GMT -6
Brissett is a solid backup QB. Nothing more. That's pretty talented. And a level not achieved by all that many. But the combination of accuracy and inspiration to make the huge play is the question. At his best he was not at an elite level. Operating at best his level probably is average starter. Early on before injury and with solid receivers that seemed the case. |
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Post by chirpchirpcards on Dec 30, 2019 7:29:30 GMT -6
Even casual fans now understand the colts are going nowhere with Brissett. Going into another year with him as the starter would be a disaster for the colt's brand. I think the colts probably realize this. Most fans do not have the fetish for mediocrity that some on this board do. I think you overestimate the casual sports fan in Indiana. Just look at the Pacers. Since their run in the early 00's that ended with the Malice at the Palace, Herb Simon has done everything he could to maintain a low-level playoff/first round exit team. Some might not call that mediocrity, but when more than half the teams in the league make the playoffs and you're the 6-8 seed, I would call that mediocrity. The fans keep coming to games, despite only 2 seasons where they looked like they had a legitimate chance at making something special happen. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2019 7:57:01 GMT -6
Just the fact that we still post on a Ball State fan board is a true indication of mediocrity acceptance.
I’m still traumatized over the revelation that the university hornswoggled the public all those years with a knock-off Frog Baby statue.
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Post by 00hmh on Dec 30, 2019 8:03:54 GMT -6
Even casual fans now understand the colts are going nowhere with Brissett. Going into another year with him as the starter would be a disaster for the colt's brand. I think the colts probably realize this. Most fans do not have the fetish for mediocrity that some on this board do. I think you overestimate the casual sports fan in Indiana. Just look at the Pacers. Since their run in the early 00's that ended with the Malice at the Palace, Herb Simon has done everything he could to maintain a low-level playoff/first round exit team. Some might not call that mediocrity, but when more than half the teams in the league make the playoffs and you're the 6-8 seed, I would call that mediocrity. The fans keep coming to games, despite only 2 seasons where they looked like they had a legitimate chance at making something special happen. Good point about Hoosier fans, but it is more than that, it takes a lot to ruin the brand of an NFL team. Consistent playoff teams do not despair on the way to the bank.
So, of course it is exaggeration. Disappointing after losing an elite QB, but hardly a disaster. That rather "mediocre" prospect they will have of play off appearance is not "going nowhere." But it is not the Super Bowl contender they might be with Andrew Luck.
There is even some room for optimism with the continued development of players and adding help in the draft at receiver and pass rush. And that is with a version of Brisset who could be an average QB starter. That team could easily be at least a notch above the one and done playoff team, although not a SB team.
They are very likely to try to get a QB who has some chance to develop in the above average QB they need for a SB team. But some magic quick impact player this year?
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Post by Lurkin McGurkin on Dec 30, 2019 8:07:46 GMT -6
Brissett will be the starter next season unless the Colts bring in a free agent starter quality QB. Or pull off the most stunning trade ever with the Bengals to move up to the 1 spot to to Joe Burrow. And that ain’t happening. There are a few besides Burrow that will be starting QBs. I get the feeling that Burrow will end up a middling NFL QB. His Heisman year may be a flash in the pan type of event, which he can't duplicate. Tua will be an above-average starter, but the injury will slow him down, and make a lot of teams think twice about drafting him. Herbert would be a good get if he's available. Once he develops some consistency, he might be the best of the bunch. I can't imagine he'd be available at 13. Fromm will be a reliable starter. He may not wow you with a laser-rocket arm, but he's competitive and doesn't make a lot of mistakes. He'll be available at 13, and the Colts might be able to trade down instead of reaching, or take a WR and make a move later in the round. Definitely an upgrade over Brissett. Eason is interesting. He's big with a great arm, but not a lot to go on. Quite a gamble, but the payoff could be huge... or Ryan Leaf 2.0. Probably available in the third round. Hurts is athletic, but a bit small and has accuracy issues. Maybe take a flier on him in the 5th if they don't pick up one of the above guys. |
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Post by williamtsherman on Dec 30, 2019 8:07:49 GMT -6
Please point out who is asking for magic quick impact.
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Post by Lurkin McGurkin on Dec 30, 2019 8:09:54 GMT -6
Please point out who is asking for magic quick impact. <<<<This guy. |
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Post by chirpchirpcards on Dec 30, 2019 8:13:46 GMT -6
Love out of Utah State is the QB that the Colts subreddit has fallen in love with, but a more level-headed poster over there noted that there hasn't been a successful QB in the NFL who had as low a completion percentage in college as Love has had.
There will be QBs to be had in almost every round. If you can identify that diamond in the rough, develop him, and give him the weapons, success can be had. Otherwise we can look to the Cleveland Browns as how best to not draft a QB. It comes down to whether or not we believe Ballard can find, and Reich can develop, the next Colts QB.
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