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Post by JacksonStreetElite on Jul 31, 2020 16:38:32 GMT -6
I kinda put the anti-mask folks in the same camp with smokers who, it was said, would boycott and ruin businesses if they were not allowed to light up inside. Of course, that never happened. I'm sure many folks will take a vow to boycott businesses over their mask policies, but I doubt most will follow through and the few that do won't be greatly missed. Hell, my wife walked out of Meijer 15 years ago after a bad customer service experience and vowed never to return. And she hasn't. But at Meijer, business somehow goes on without her. I worked at Meijer 15 years ago. What was her experience? The people at least have the choice to boycott business. If you try to boycott the government they will escalate it until you are dead or locked in a cage. I 100% support businesses mandating masks. I 100% oppose the government mandating masks.
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Post by lmills72 on Jul 31, 2020 17:24:50 GMT -6
I worked at Meijer 15 years ago. What was her experience? The people at least have the choice to boycott business. If you try to boycott the government they will escalate it until you are dead or locked in a cage. I 100% support businesses mandating masks. I 100% oppose the government mandating masks. If you truly want to know, her decision was the culmination of several different events ranging from price discrepancies to being unable to find anyone to help with in-store matters to what she saw as inadequate cashier staffing that made it impossible to get out of the store without standing in line forever. As far as government mandates go, you could hardly call Indiana's mask mandate a true "mandate." More like a strongly worded suggestion.
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Post by williamtsherman on Aug 2, 2020 21:17:22 GMT -6
Here is something that will definitely happen between now and Christmas. Some teacher(s) teaching in person classes will catch COVID and die. This person or persons will become a martyr (or martyrs) and their name(s) will be invoked endlessly to justify more paid days off for teachers for many months to come.
This WILL happen, the only thing to be determined is the name(s).
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Post by JacksonStreetElite on Aug 3, 2020 15:05:45 GMT -6
I worked at Meijer 15 years ago. What was her experience? The people at least have the choice to boycott business. If you try to boycott the government they will escalate it until you are dead or locked in a cage. I 100% support businesses mandating masks. I 100% oppose the government mandating masks. If you truly want to know, her decision was the culmination of several different events ranging from price discrepancies to being unable to find anyone to help with in-store matters to what she saw as inadequate cashier staffing that made it impossible to get out of the store without standing in line forever. As far as government mandates go, you could hardly call Indiana's mask mandate a true "mandate." More like a strongly worded suggestion. I mainly asked because one time a co-worker of mine came to me in the break room and said he was about to get fired. When I asked why he said a woman had been giving him a hard time about Wal-Mart having better service or prices or something and he told her to "go shop at f***ing Wal-Mart then." He didn't get fired so he was either making it up or the woman never complained. I was hoping you might confirm his story. When calling the mandate a strongly worded suggestion, keep in mind that Parliament repealed the Stamp Act and passed the Declaratory Act on the same day. It essentially recognized that it was heading to trouble with the Stamp Act so it just replaced it with a declaration that Parliament had the right to govern America. We all know where that ended. The governor could have issued a strongly worded suggestion, instead he issued a feeble mandate. And it's more than a strongly worded suggestion because the enforcement of the mandate essentially falls to businesses who may face threats to their licences if they fail to enforce the mandate. Holcomb just got sued for depriving people of their constitutional right to access the courts, it's about time.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Aug 13, 2020 21:10:07 GMT -6
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Post by bsu0 on Aug 14, 2020 9:32:14 GMT -6
Down here in Texas the Gov. issued along with local officials an order that all wear masks in public areas. Even though I do wear a mask I called the police to see what if anything they would do if someone refused to don the face covering. They told me it is not included in the penal code so they couldn't even issue a ticket if they wanted. But, if a store owner required it and a customer refused and they were called they could issue a summons for trespassing.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Aug 14, 2020 10:21:54 GMT -6
Same here in Indiana
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Post by 00hmh on Aug 14, 2020 15:54:16 GMT -6
Masks work to cut transmission rate. Not wearing a mask says I do not have the virus and I know it with enough certainty to risk the vulnerable around me. The odds are pretty good any individual doesn't have an active case, I agree.
Unfortunately that one person who is wrong about that can infect many, and there is no way if symptoms are mild to be sure. Or maybe it is just Saying you don't care about that, refusing to protect others.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Aug 14, 2020 20:55:29 GMT -6
Ill say this there has been a rash of cases within our school district and others I know personally. A lot of these people I know personally. None of these people would have ever even went to the doctor for the symptoms they had under normal non covid conditions. Most I have talked too said they felt like the head cold or sinus infection. Most were fine in 2-7 days many are waiting for their 14 day quarantine to be over.. These are all healthy 25-50 year olds though and all of them have kids. All of them have been around youth sports this summer. I really think kids are getting this and showing no symptoms or parents just think its normal kids stuff Runny Nose, Cough etc.. Then the kid infects the parents so on and so on.
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Post by 00hmh on Aug 14, 2020 22:44:56 GMT -6
That's very likely. One case becomes 2-6 cases in a week or so, maybe much more, then that cycles again, and so on. 3 weeks in after school starts, who knows how many around. Number gets big fast.
You need one kid, one parent from all those people to spend time with a vulnerable person, you have a serious case.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Aug 20, 2020 10:40:50 GMT -6
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Post by Lurkin McGurkin on Aug 20, 2020 10:59:36 GMT -6
Snitches get stitches.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Aug 20, 2020 15:14:13 GMT -6
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Post by cardfan on Aug 22, 2020 14:29:46 GMT -6
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Post by williamtsherman on Sept 10, 2020 11:29:23 GMT -6
That article is pretty long on sensationalism and short on facts. It's obviously trying to make the biggest deal possible out of a somewhat murky situation.
On the other hand, I see that the total number of COVID deaths in the US military is......seven. As in one, two, three, four, five, six, seven. The youngest one being 34.
The most striking thing about this virus is the very, very dramatic difference in effect by age. But yet the media treats the infection of 1000 students the same as 1000 infections of anyone else. The infection of 1000 students is maybe not entirely without risk, but if, on the other hand, you had 1000 infections of 70-year-olds, it's time to rent some bulldozers to make mass graves.
To me, it is looking like the BIG10 will look increasingly silly for cancelling their football season. It will become increasing obvious this was done for political reasons rather than health reasons. Since the media agrees with those political reasons, they will be hyping whatever they can to make that decision look better, but there is only so much effectiveness to their spinning.
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