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Post by 00hmh on Oct 3, 2021 10:31:43 GMT -6
Tell Tucker and the anti vax people about it... Who is Tucker ? If you are not watching Tucker Carlson you don't get the full extent of how FOX has targeted not just conservatives in the traditional sense, but that conservative audience that is accepting of conspiracy theory. Unfortunately an audience Trump is happy to exploit. |
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Post by sweep on Oct 3, 2021 10:51:56 GMT -6
If you are not watching Tucker Carlson you don't get the full extent of how FOX has targeted not just conservatives in the traditional sense, but that conservative audience that is accepting of conspiracy theory. Unfortunately an audience Trump is happy to exploit. So you are telling us Trump runs the Fox Network, and they are pushing a conspiracy theory ? Maybe you should check your own conspiracy theories at the door. Now just for fun, tell us all about the vaccine conspiracy theory the Fox Network is trying to push ? |
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Post by 00hmh on Oct 3, 2021 11:02:32 GMT -6
If you are not watching Tucker Carlson you don't get the full extent of how FOX has targeted not just conservatives in the traditional sense, but that conservative audience that is accepting of conspiracy theory. Unfortunately an audience Trump is happy to exploit. So you are telling us Trump runs the Fox Network, and they are pushing a conspiracy theory ? Maybe you should check your own conspiracy theories at the door. Now just for fun, tell us all about the vaccine conspiracy theory the Fox Network is trying to push ? I did not say that. But Trump does influence the audience they have.
If you are not familiar with Tucker Carlson and his anti-vax, just take a look at it. Of course it is not all conspiracy, or outright lies. Every powerful lie has some truth in it. The conspiracy side of things helps some people believe who mistrust someone and are willing to assume the opposite of what they say must be true.
That is something I think Trump has a genius exploiting.
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Post by sweep on Oct 3, 2021 11:34:21 GMT -6
So you are telling us Trump runs the Fox Network, and they are pushing a conspiracy theory ? Maybe you should check your own conspiracy theories at the door. Now just for fun, tell us all about the vaccine conspiracy theory the Fox Network is trying to push ? I did not say that. But Trump does influence the audience they have.
If you are not familiar with Tucker Carlson and his anti-vax, just take a look at it. Of course it is not all conspiracy, or outright lies. Every powerful lie has some truth in it. The conspiracy side of things helps some people believe who mistrust someone and are willing to assume the opposite of what they say must be true.
That is something I think Trump has a genius exploiting.
Way to backpedal. |
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Post by 00hmh on Oct 3, 2021 14:07:43 GMT -6
Back pedal? Read what I said. Tucker facilitates conspiracy. Trump takes advantage of FOX. FOX has a lock on right to far right audience.
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Post by sweep on Oct 3, 2021 14:23:36 GMT -6
Back pedal? Read what I said. Tucker facilitates conspiracy. Trump takes advantage of FOX. FOX has a lock on right to far right audience. I notice you never attempted to explain what Fox's supposed vaccination conspiracy theory entails. Fill us in, we want to know. |
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Post by sweep on Oct 3, 2021 14:29:40 GMT -6
By the way oo there is now a large outbreak in New England. www.aol.com/news/delta-tearing-states-despite-high-115328590-144309086.htmlIt's surprising the Republican Party and Fox News have so much influence there. Or maybe there are other more commonsense factors and you have been posting complete bullshit for the past several weeks. This whole thing is hilarious, the vaccination rate in Massachusetts is 66% the rate in Florida is 59%, but reading 00's posts you would think the difference is massive. |
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Post by 00hmh on Oct 3, 2021 16:47:09 GMT -6
The issue about FOX cornering the conspiracy audience is not related to the Covid stats you're citing. Get back to that.
Also please note that Florida's vax rate is very good compared to most red states. Too bad most red states, even Indiana, haven't done as well.
An older population, those old conservatives whatever their philosophy politically, got vaccinated. Wanted to live, wanted their older community to survive.
Younger Floridians not so much, and they have suffered compared to the same age in Massachusetts. Florida communities NOT retirement oriented have suffered more.
That's the shame in the anti vax position.
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Post by sweep on Oct 3, 2021 17:01:52 GMT -6
The issue about FOX cornering the conspiracy audience is not related to the Covid stats you're citing. Who said it was ? You still haven't shared what Fox's supposedly false vaccination conspiracy is. At this point I'll just assume you were talking out of your ass again. |
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Post by 00hmh on Oct 3, 2021 19:17:59 GMT -6
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Post by bsutrack on Oct 3, 2021 20:21:05 GMT -6
To follow-up a bit on what Sweep has already highlighted, there is an significant increase in Covid-19 cases in New England over the past few weeks.
Meanwhile, there are dramatic decreases in Covid-19 cases in anti vax, anti mask, Red States such as the following:
Florida: 75% decrease in Covid cases from the last week in August, 2021 to October 1, 2021
Georgia: 57% decrease in Covid cases from the last week in August, 2021 to October 1, 2021
Texas:: 37% decrease in Covid cases from the last week in August, 2021 to October 1, 2021
Missouri: 25% decrease in Covid cases from the last week in August, 2021 to October 1, 2021
Meanwhile in the socialist Democratic states of New England where the citizens are used to following the directives of the State:
According to statistics from The Associated Press, the five states with the highest percentage of a fully vaccinated population are all in New England, with Vermont leading, followed by Connecticut, Maine, Rhode Island and Massachusetts. New Hampshire is 10th.
Parts of New England are seeing record case counts, hospitalizations and deaths that rival pre-vaccine peaks. The head of UMass Memorial Health, the largest health system in central Massachusetts, said recently that regional hospitals were seeing nearly 20 times more COVID-19 patients than in June and there isn’t an ICU bed to spare.
Case counts in Vermont, which has continually boasted about high vaccination and low hospitalization and death rates, are the highest during the pandemic. Hospitalizations are approaching the pandemic peak from last winter and September was Vermont's second-deadliest month during the pandemic.
Now according to our resident expert, 00, none of this should be happening. Folks in New England certainly would be using mitigation such as masks, vaccines, and distance much better than the Red states of Florida, Georgia, Texas, and Missouri.
The moral of the story: the virus does what it wants to do; mitigation measures have a limited impact on it.
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Post by bsutrack on Oct 3, 2021 20:29:20 GMT -6
Read my post above. Your argument is a silly one NOT to be vaccinated. For reasons stated. And you ignore that those side effects of natural immunity are killer... Read my post above, science as evidenced by the cited Israeli study, clearly shows you have better protection from surviving Covid-19 as offered by the vaccine. It's not worth risking the side effects of the vaccine to add to the robust protection you have from already having defeated Covid-19. Ever wonder why so many health care workers refuse to take the vaccine? Have you missed all the articles about nurses and other health care staff being fired for refusing to take the vaccine? Those folks should know better than anyone else, yet they feel they don't need the vaccine after surviving a case of Covid, to the extend they are willing to lose their jobs. Now if you haven't had Covid-19, by all means you should get the vaccine. I wouldn't want to risk what you might get from a case of Covid. It's like the proverbial box of chocolates from Forrest Gump; you never know what you are going to get, a mild case or one that kills you. |
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Post by 00hmh on Oct 3, 2021 21:17:35 GMT -6
The Israeli study says nothing about wisdom of vaccination.
The risk of side effects is extremely small. Serious side effects rare, very rarely life threats. More rare than Covid for those not vaccinated. Especially for the vulnerable.
IF you have Covid it gives protection. But even better protection then if you get vaccinated too.
My post above points out the problems with natural immunity.
For the individual it's clear, plus you combat community spread.
The great majority of health care professionals do choose vaccination. Especially so MDs.
You are saying the minority view must be right? What secret information do they have, not shared by the large majority? This is not a close call in health care.
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Post by sweep on Oct 4, 2021 6:32:07 GMT -6
Nowhere in this bizarre word tangle does it tell us anything about a phony Fox Network vaccination conspiracy theory. Nice try, Human Garbage. |
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Post by sweep on Oct 4, 2021 6:33:56 GMT -6
The Israeli study says nothing about wisdom of vaccination. WTF does that mean ? |
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