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Post by 00hmh on Aug 23, 2020 14:09:29 GMT -6
The "media" I am trusting are the scientific journals.
If there is good science out there disagrees, why is it not published in peer reviewed outlets. Not letters reported in internet blogs not reviewed by anyone as is the source you cite?
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Post by bsutrack on Aug 23, 2020 15:00:06 GMT -6
I'll trust the clinical scientific studies reviewed by experts and published in scientific journals. The data you present leaves out too many factors. Those results you report leave out a lot of variables, but we're not ignored and were followed by scientific study that proved the results were not what they looked like. You do realize most scientific journals are positive feedback loops? Research that meets the accepted norms are reviewed by those that agree, so-called friend reviews not actual peer reviews. Research that doesn't result in the accepted "facts" are ripped to shreds and not accepted.
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Post by 00hmh on Aug 23, 2020 15:03:36 GMT -6
If you find results around the world impressive, by far the most convincing evidence of that type is about social distance, masks, and greater care reopening.
I would wager the 3 doctors you cite would agree there. Overwhelming majorities of physicians world wide would also agree the virus is not a hoax, and would support more widespread contact tracing after testing.
These measures would save far more lives than a treatment widely used but showing very limited impact when studied.
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Post by bsutrack on Aug 23, 2020 15:17:37 GMT -6
The "media" I am trusting are the scientific journals. If there is good science out there disagrees, why is it not published in peer reviewed outlets. Not letters reported in internet blogs not reviewed by anyone as is the source you cite? The events of this pandemic are so recent, I doubt those scientific journals are already printing results. If they are I would have to believe they are a bit too early. Like calling the results of baseball game in the 3rd inning. I would love to show you the U-tube video made by 2 ER doctors in Bakersfield, CA back in April. They discussed how they and their colleagues were being pressured to record deaths as Covid-19 even when they didn't think they were. This was before widespread testing was available. They also reported how using hydroxychlorquine was helping their patients. However, after they received airtime on Fox, U-Tube pulled their video citing it not conforming to WHO accepted viewpoints. Here's the twitter page of a person who follows the whole Covid-19 developments pretty closely. It isn't a peer reviewed journal, but it's up to date with what is happening. twitter.com/gummibear737?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1283840194056257537%7Ctwgr%5E&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.zerohedge.com%2Fpolitical%2Fhydroxychloroquine-one-chart-you-need-see
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Post by 00hmh on Aug 23, 2020 18:24:25 GMT -6
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Post by lmills72 on Aug 23, 2020 18:55:35 GMT -6
I think we all just need to believe whatever the hell we want to believe and not be swayed by left- or right-leaning "science."
For instance, I'm going to believe the sniffing ground unicorn horn is the antidote for COVID-19. Now, prior to the start of the pandemic, the largest herd of unicorns was known to exist in New Zealand, which is why they have so successfully controlled the outbreak. However, few people know that the U.S. government maintains a secret unicorn herd in Wyoming (curiously one of the least affected states). They use this to maintain the health of government officials and locals have been known to pinch a few ounces out of government stockpiles.
Anyway, I'm traveling to Wyoming next week to score some antidote on the black (lives matter) market. Let me know if you guys need some dust.
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Post by 00hmh on Aug 23, 2020 19:13:47 GMT -6
Can you forward this to the RNC for inclusion in the GOP platform.
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Post by cardfan on Aug 23, 2020 19:15:57 GMT -6
Pence said there would be a miracle soon, so maybe unicorn horn powder is already in the platform.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2020 10:42:23 GMT -6
I guess my Nursing classes are controlled by leftist media. Teaching us to wear masks and proper ppe when dealing with infections In order to disrupt the chain of infection dam leftist media 🙄
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Post by JacksonStreetElite on Aug 24, 2020 14:16:47 GMT -6
I guess my Nursing classes are controlled by leftist media. Teaching us to wear masks and proper ppe when dealing with infections In order to disrupt the chain of infection dam leftist media 🙄 Well leftists do pretty much control higher education so you’re probably on to something there.
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Post by 00hmh on Aug 24, 2020 14:58:48 GMT -6
I guess my Nursing classes are controlled by leftist media. Teaching us to wear masks and proper ppe when dealing with infections In order to disrupt the chain of infection dam leftist media 🙄 Well leftists do pretty much control higher education so you’re probably on to something there. Good thing you have choices. When faced with serious illness you can rely on faith healers, for example, if you want to judge on political philosophy and distrust the science. Not much of that taught in Divinity School.
You will not even have to trust germ theory at all, much less modern medical practice as taught in the universities. Should be cheaper without all those chemical tests and imaging that rely on science as taught at those leftist institutions.
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Post by david75bsu on Aug 24, 2020 17:33:46 GMT -6
O.K. We have high schools football in Indiana and we don’t have college football? Can someone explain this to me?
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Post by lmills72 on Aug 24, 2020 18:24:36 GMT -6
High schools are run by the IHSAA. Colleges are run by the Big Ten, MAC, etc.
Notre Dame is still playing, right?
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Post by david75bsu on Aug 24, 2020 18:27:39 GMT -6
High schools are run by the IHSAA. Colleges are run by the Big Ten, MAC, etc. Notre Dame is still playing, right? Yes!
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Post by 00hmh on Aug 24, 2020 19:26:35 GMT -6
O.K. We have high schools football in Indiana and we don’t have college football? Can someone explain this to me? Not much expected of IHSHAA HS football leadership? You have a point that everyone should be following CDC guideline and have some oherent, consistent leadership on the matter. Except we don't have that agency operating freely. And don't have much leadership to make that so.
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