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Post by williamtsherman on Aug 17, 2020 21:25:53 GMT -6
I'm pretty cynical but I would have never dreamed things would ever deteriorate to this point. Politicians of a certain party are allowing out and out scum to run amok in the streets of major cities across the nation. Maybe because they see the scum as political allies, maybe because they lack the political courage to do anything...whatever. Maybe some of the players wearing BLM political messages on their jerseys can have a look at what their friends are up to in Portland....if they care. Warning - this is absolutely sickening. link |
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Aug 18, 2020 8:35:40 GMT -6
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Post by JacksonStreetElite on Aug 18, 2020 8:35:40 GMT -6
Pretty hard to see stories like that. I watched a video yesterday of a british man being racist on the subway and he gets sucker punched and knocked unconscious. When some people try to help him someone says not to help a racist. The lack of humanity is disturbing. Racist or not he’s still human and the amount of hate someone must have to condone the violence and then the heartlessness of not assisting someone suffering a brain injury is sickening.
I love the pacific northwest, but won’t be going back any time soon.
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Post by 00hmh on Aug 18, 2020 9:53:13 GMT -6
I'm pretty cynical but I would have never dreamed things would ever deteriorate to this point. Politicians of a certain party are allowing out and out scum to run amok in the streets of major cities across the nation. Yeah, you don't see that in the autocratic dictatorships with a good old police state!
Like Belarus or Ukraine. Certain politicians at the top of certain parties certainly would like to see something more like that.
I do agree the current political climate has deteriorated badly. I am not sure the solution is to to blame one brand of politican or for that matter to demonize all the "scum" who are identified so easily by BLM T-shirts.
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Post by williamtsherman on Aug 18, 2020 11:30:44 GMT -6
I'm pretty cynical but I would have never dreamed things would ever deteriorate to this point. Politicians of a certain party are allowing out and out scum to run amok in the streets of major cities across the nation. Yeah, you don't see that in the autocratic dictatorships with a good old police state!
Like Belarus or Ukraine. Certain politicians at the top of certain parties certainly would like to see something more like that.
I do agree the current political climate has deteriorated badly. I am not sure the solution is to to blame one brand of politican or for that matter to demonize all the "scum" who are identified so easily by BLM T-shirts.
Maybe you should be a little more concerned about the actual left-wing wanton violence, looting, burning and destruction occurring this summer, and less concerned about your fevered imaginary fantasies of right-wing dictatorship that there is no sane basis for.
Name one case where a Republican mayor/governor/prosecutor has sat back and allowed their political allies to riot and destroy things in their city this summer. This is strictly a Democratic shit show. Own it.
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Aug 18, 2020 12:30:58 GMT -6
Post by 00hmh on Aug 18, 2020 12:30:58 GMT -6
Yeah, you don't see that in the autocratic dictatorships with a good old police state!
Like Belarus or Ukraine. Certain politicians at the top of certain parties certainly would like to see something more like that.
I do agree the current political climate has deteriorated badly. I am not sure the solution is to to blame one brand of politican or for that matter to demonize all the "scum" who are identified so easily by BLM T-shirts.
Maybe you should be a little more concerned about the actual left-wing wanton violence, looting, burning and destruction occurring this summer, and less concerned about your fevered imaginary fantasies of right-wing dictatorship that there is no sane basis for.
Name one case where a Republican mayor/governor/prosecutor has sat back and allowed their political allies to riot and destroy things in their city this summer. This is strictly a Democratic shit show. Own it.
I don't think the political party of the mayors had much to do with the rioting occurring. Once you have a riot there is no pretty solution. Your characterization of the response as "allowing" political allies to riot is specious.
No party has a monopoly on wisdom. Or an answer to big problems we have with race in the country.
No political party can claim to have an answer to prevent rioting. Maybe you think our President's actions to unleash tear gas on peaceful protest for his photo op and call in feds from all over the country perhaps prevented a riot. Well, sort of.
Once you have a riot, there is no simple effective way to deal with the situation. What response do you think would have worked in these cases. Same one that worked so well in past history? Like Watts, or Detroit, or in Chicago during the political convention. The aftermath we have seen looks better to me than that alternative.
I don't know the perfect answer, but making political charges of a Democrat party leadership that wants riots to appease potential voters is ridiculous.
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Aug 18, 2020 13:54:45 GMT -6
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Post by rusty on Aug 18, 2020 13:54:45 GMT -6
White privileged view Mr Sherm!
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Post by williamtsherman on Aug 18, 2020 14:58:08 GMT -6
Good all-purpose truth avoidance and denial tactic Rusty.
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Post by 00hmh on Aug 18, 2020 15:09:20 GMT -6
Good all-purpose truth avoidance and denial tactic Rusty. You are white. You are privileged. Own it.
On the truth front, the denial and avoidance of reality is yours. Nobody supports rioters. Nobody gains from rioting. It's certainly not a political plus for anyone.
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Aug 18, 2020 16:00:09 GMT -6
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Post by williamtsherman on Aug 18, 2020 16:00:09 GMT -6
Several Democratic controlled cities aren't really doing anything to prevent it either...are they?
But if you want to avoid my points due to my skin pigment, well then go ahead. It's a quick easy way to avoid difficult thinking.
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Post by williamtsherman on Aug 18, 2020 17:25:51 GMT -6
White privileged view Mr Sherm! Certainly Rusty's method has a lot of potential. I mean, let's just face the fact that half the population is below median intelligence. Those people could use an easy short cut to judge others with, when confronted with difficult topics. Thinking is so freaking hard! And you don't always have the guidance of your favorite website or social media figure to tell you what to think. So, If they would just note the persons skin pigmentation and make their judgement based on that, as Rusty has here, they don't have to listen, try to counter, or think hardly at all! Cool! We just need a catchy label for this pigment-based short cut. Let's see...... |
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Aug 18, 2020 19:21:55 GMT -6
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Post by 00hmh on Aug 18, 2020 19:21:55 GMT -6
Several Democratic controlled cities aren't really doing anything to prevent it either...are they? But if you want to avoid my points due to my skin pigment, well then go ahead. It's a quick easy way to avoid difficult thinking. No difficult thinking required. Nobody supports rioters. Nobody gains from rioting. |
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Post by williamtsherman on Aug 18, 2020 19:52:19 GMT -6
You don't really have to support rioters though, do you? Say what you want about them, but they are pretty self-motivated. You just have to surrender the authority to them in your jurisdiction and they will take it from there. Democratic politicians have been only too happy to do this. For weeks on end in some cases, and for just a night of good old fashioned burning and looting in other cases. That's the point.
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Post by JacksonStreetElite on Aug 20, 2020 20:50:38 GMT -6
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Post by Lurkin McGurkin on Aug 21, 2020 6:19:25 GMT -6
Wait, you mean the mayor can keep everyone a block away, with armed police, because she has "a right to keep her home secure?"
Leftist hypocrisy at its finest.
Can't wait to see how 00 defends this...
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Post by 00hmh on Aug 21, 2020 9:00:17 GMT -6
Wait, you mean the mayor can keep everyone a block away, with armed police, because she has "a right to keep her home secure?" Leftist hypocrisy at its finest. Can't wait to see how 00 defends this... No great enthusiasm to defend it here. Politicians are targets, I get that part. Police should recognize that.
I'll be consistent and defend the Washington DC decision to keep demonstrators away from the WH fences and confined across the street in a public park, but there has to be limit on that. For example, I certainly can't defend Trump deciding he needed a tear gas trip to make a photo op a block from the WH.
Where do you think the line should be drawn?
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