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Post by 00hmh on Dec 9, 2020 11:07:40 GMT -6
That is BS. There was no constant stream of campaign statements from the Biden campaign to that effect. Biden at no point said he would not accept loss.
There absolutely was, and it was topped off by Hillary Clinton telling Biden "do not concede, under any circumstances" and that absentee ballots could be rigged. Why was the Biden team so lawyered up, if there wasn't the same strategy? A clip of Hillary? Not Joe Biden? Or any representative of his campaign? Trump repeatedly said he could only lose by fraud, in MANY campaign appearances. You have no better answer because there was no constant stream of statements, or emphasis on challenging the election results by the Biden campaign. Why was Biden lawyered, you ask? If your opponent is constantly threatening lawsuits and making extensive preparation, would you just sit there and let him? He'd have to be the idiot you claim he is, to do that. The better question is why was Trump so heavily concentrating on what he called "fraud" and so actively planning with so many lawyers? And since he was, why didn't he have a better case? Why didn't his lawyers even allege fraud in most cases?
Why has he spent more time on winning Georgia after the election than he did before?
Simplest answer for these questions is there was no substantial case.
Trump's statements now about "bad things" that "somebody told me" is either utter failure to accept reality or a con job to raise money and a kick off to his next big con.
He is President and needs to start acting like he is. Pandemic and other things need attention. Let's hope he is not totally deranged, prowling the halls of the WH, muttering about pardons, while his staff looks for other jobs, or seeks one of those pardons, like some of his political allies including the Texas AG.
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Post by villagepub on Dec 9, 2020 12:27:23 GMT -6
There absolutely was, and it was topped off by Hillary Clinton telling Biden "do not concede, under any circumstances" and that absentee ballots could be rigged. Why was the Biden team so lawyered up, if there wasn't the same strategy? A clip of Hillary? Not Joe Biden? Or any representative of his campaign? Trump repeatedly said he could only lose by fraud, in MANY campaign appearances. You have no better answer because there was no constant stream of statements, or emphasis on challenging the election results by the Biden campaign. Why was Biden lawyered, you ask? If your opponent is constantly threatening lawsuits and making extensive preparation, would you just sit there and let him? He'd have to be the idiot you claim he is, to do that. The better question is why was Trump so heavily concentrating on what he called "fraud" and so actively planning with so many lawyers? And since he was, why didn't he have a better case? Why didn't his lawyers even allege fraud in most cases?
Why has he spent more time on winning Georgia after the election than he did before?
Simplest answer for these questions is there was no substantial case.
Trump's statements now about "bad things" that "somebody told me" is either utter failure to accept reality or a con job to raise money and a kick off to his next big con.
He is President and needs to start acting like he is. Pandemic and other things need attention. Let's hope he is not totally deranged, prowling the halls of the WH, muttering about pardons, while his staff looks for other jobs, or seeks one of those pardons, like some of his political allies including the Texas AG.
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Post by bleadingcardwhite on Dec 9, 2020 13:26:28 GMT -6
Out of pure curiosity do you seriously think Joe Biden pulled 80,000,000 votes? I think he did beat Trump, however I don’t see how he outperformed Obama by that margin...
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Post by 00hmh on Dec 9, 2020 15:59:41 GMT -6
Out of pure curiosity do you seriously think Joe Biden pulled 80,000,000 votes? I think he did beat Trump, however I don’t see how he outperformed Obama by that margin... I believe it. The Lincoln Project brought a lot of voters to Joe, never would go to Obama. Also you underestimate how many Democrats hate Trump more than they liked Obama. The Democrats and the GOP both had big voter turnout efforts. Dems stressing early voting to lock in votes. Eliminate the expected October surprise. No doubt Trump would do something then. It was lame Obama tone deaf Justice Department that killed Hillary. That plus her mistake in thinking she had Michigan, and Pa in the bag. |
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Post by 00hmh on Dec 11, 2020 18:16:06 GMT -6
US SCt joined the conspiracy against Lord Trump tonight. Trump has eaten what he called "the big one."
No surprise actually. The Court could take a case where Texas had a real justiciable case. They simply could not show they had a dog in the fight.
Trump and his legal team(s) are now 0-50 and counting in the courts.
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Post by TakeMeBackto2008 on Dec 11, 2020 22:48:44 GMT -6
Lmao, people on Parler calling for "succession" after the ruling.
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Post by JacksonStreetElite on Dec 12, 2020 8:40:15 GMT -6
Lmao, people on Parler calling for "succession" after the ruling. Lmao, I can’t believe the government-run schools failed to teach the masses the principal our country is founded upon. |
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Post by 00hmh on Dec 17, 2020 16:24:55 GMT -6
Why is Trump worrying so much about staying as President with so little desire to actually do anything to govern?
Not trying to figure out the hack by Russia?
The virus as we see 3000+ die?
Budget??
Government shutdown?
Defense authorization?
Covid relief?
NOTHING? Not even a tweet...
Lots on pardons...and,
"I won big"
"Stock market doing well."
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Post by 00hmh on Dec 27, 2020 9:14:48 GMT -6
WTF is the guy doing? Does he have any staffers around him to explain the consequences? Or just the crackpot election conspiracy theorists advocating martial law? His response to important actions required? Heads off to play golf. Not a mention of record deaths, hospitalization. Economic suffering of many.
Does have time to complain Melania not a cover girl on fashion mags...
Asserts the virus is a blue state problem while Florida is doing fine as that state sees literally thousands of cases that day, ignores that Indiana and other red states hit 12% rate of infection. Criticizes shutdown in LA as the hospital system is swanped creating an emergency. After his representatives negotiate with Congress on relief and defense, after a veto proof defense authorization is passed, with no defense related issue he floats a veto idea to try to change things agreed to. Then actually carries out the threat. Holds the relief bill and fails to sign it. No recognition of people losing their unemployment money, facing eviction, businesses surely failing. Wants $2000 for everyone he says. But his party in Congress won't support it despite Pelosi having a bill in the House. The costs of delay will cost many needy people their homes and jobs, far more than an extra one time payment. This is intentionally creating chaos. To what end? It does make things harder for Joe Biden as he sabotages transition. Our adversaries overseas must be delighted with his handling of the government. Our allies are becoming convinced they cannot trust our government.
So? How does this throwing a tantrum make America great?
Can anyone explain this erratic behavior?
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Post by Lurkin McGurkin on Dec 27, 2020 11:27:55 GMT -6
He’s done. He knows he lost, so he’s taking the holidays off.
In doing so he’s putting pressure on Congress to revise the spending bill.
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Post by cardfan on Dec 27, 2020 11:48:24 GMT -6
That’s all he’s doing? He’s that benevolent?
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Post by 00hmh on Dec 27, 2020 11:51:27 GMT -6
He’s done. He knows he lost, so he’s taking the holidays off. In doing so he’s putting pressure on Congress to revise the spending bill. He is President. For another 4 weeks. He can't take the holiday off with stuff on the table...not without a government shutdown and real suffering for millions of people. He's not mayor of Muncie.
This is irrational posturing. The defense authorization isn't going to change.
The part about trying to change the spending bill doesn't meet the smell test. The deadline is here and there is no time for revision. Besides. The Covid bill together with that bill was negotiated with his approval. His man was the guy who told GOP allies what Trump would sign. If he didn't like something, why wait until now?
There will always be stupid stuff in a compromise budget bill to get wavering members on both sides to go along. You can't get passage without it, and it will not change. MANY did not want any package. Trumps party wants LESS not more money in individual checks.
This chaos likely resulting in a worse bill or no bill, not negotiating.
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Post by 00hmh on Dec 27, 2020 11:54:24 GMT -6
What this is resembles many failed Trump business deals. He stiffs his partners, his workers, lets the project just collapse, usually going into the bankruptcy courts. He saves his own hide because he plays with other peoples money. This time he is actually soliciting money from his followers with fraudulent claims he is using it to fight the election results.
That is one way to understand it, that he simply doesn't care as long as he walks away from the train wreck with money in his pocket. Pure Trump.
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Post by Lurkin McGurkin on Dec 27, 2020 13:38:32 GMT -6
So what are you gonna do? Not vote for him again?
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Post by TakeMeBackto2008 on Dec 27, 2020 15:59:14 GMT -6
Anyone who didn't listen to Trump or get down on their knees for him knew this is what he would do if he lost.
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