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Post by 00hmh on Jun 10, 2021 10:00:59 GMT -6
Bowling Green loses Turner and gets a couple of guys from Binghamton and Samford (combined for 10 wins) and guys from ODU, Kent, and Evansville. They definitely could be good, but hard to say significantly better than anyone else... And if you look at Kent's "highly rated" SEC transfers favorably, then the same has to be true for any SEC guys coming into the MAC, including ones we've gotten. They're coming to the MAC because things weren't going to pan out for them at this point for them in that conference. Unless they're leaving because of discipline (buffalo's guard a couple of years ago)-I could understand making arguments about those guys being difference makers. Yeah, our newcomers from lesser conferences than the SEC but better teams compared to the MAC teams, had very similar high hopes out of HS and could not break out on their more highly talented squads.
BG/Kent may be very similar to us in having a lot unknown at this point.
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Post by williamtsherman on Jun 10, 2021 10:56:13 GMT -6
No doubt the upcoming season will be an odd sort of season, and involves a larger amount of unknowns than a typical season. I'm sure the veterans on this board see exactly where things are heading....right? There will be some MAC program, probably from the East, that adapts and overcomes and wins a MAC championship and tourney berth. Meanwhile, at BSU, the off-season roster chaos will be your Official 2021-22 Jim Whitford Excuse for Failure.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Jun 10, 2021 11:25:39 GMT -6
No doubt the upcoming season will be an odd sort of season, and involves a larger amount of unknowns than a typical season. I'm sure the veterans on this board see exactly where things are heading....right? There will be some MAC program, probably from the East, that adapts and overcomes and wins a MAC championship and tourney berth. Meanwhile, at BSU, the off-season roster chaos will be your Official 2021-22 Jim Whitford Excuse for Failure.
we had so many new faces we could just not gel. Now that we are all trusting the process next year is going to be special
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Post by 00hmh on Jun 10, 2021 11:37:52 GMT -6
No doubt the upcoming season will be an odd sort of season, and involves a larger amount of unknowns than a typical season. I'm sure the veterans on this board see exactly where things are heading....right? There will be some MAC program, probably from the East, that adapts and overcomes and wins a MAC championship and tourney berth. Probably a team that has less uncertainty than ours.
I agree that 3 or 4 teams from the East will get preseason nods as favorites compared to BSU.
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Post by 00hmh on Jun 10, 2021 11:57:53 GMT -6
No doubt the upcoming season will be an odd sort of season, and involves a larger amount of unknowns than a typical season.
we had so many new faces we could just not gel. I would not hate it if the team takes time to gel and looks good by seasons end.
Hope everyone would agree that such a result would be a good sign for the future with a roster that would have few losses due to graduation, be "balanced," and have proved they could play.
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Post by realitycheck on Jun 10, 2021 15:17:31 GMT -6
we had so many new faces we could just not gel. I would not hate it if the team takes time to gel and looks good by seasons end.
Hope everyone would agree that such a result would be a good sign for the future with a roster that would have few losses due to graduation, be "balanced," and have proved they could play.
Is this a recording?
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Post by thebsukid on Jun 10, 2021 15:28:32 GMT -6
I think we look better on paper than I earlier thought.
Here's my depth chart by position:
PG Bum-Suokes 2. Cochran-Sellers 3. Pearson-Jones 4. Thomas-Jihad 5. Sparks-Huggins
This represents my top 10; possibly my only surprise may be Bum at PG, but I truly see that with Cochran and Sellers at the 2.
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Post by 00hmh on Jun 10, 2021 16:45:20 GMT -6
Sparks, Huggins either one in top 8 seems optimistic. I'd see us playing small more often, probably most of the time.
All three freshmen ready early on?
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Post by thebsukid on Jun 10, 2021 17:14:29 GMT -6
You could be right but I believe Moses started as a Freshman and I see them as similar talents although Sparks is a bigger body and Huggie was in first 8-9 last year, right? This is a good Freshman class. What we do with it may be another story.
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Post by williamtsherman on Jun 10, 2021 17:55:02 GMT -6
I would not hate it if the team takes time to gel and looks good by seasons end.
Hope everyone would agree that such a result would be a good sign for the future with a roster that would have few losses due to graduation, be "balanced," and have proved they could play.
Is this a recording? That's the sound of goalposts moving and bars lowering.
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Post by 00hmh on Jun 10, 2021 18:27:45 GMT -6
You could be right but I believe Moses started as a Freshman and I see them as similar talents although Sparks is a bigger body and Huggie was in first 8-9 last year, right? This is a good Freshman class. What we do with it may be another story. Moses had a good summer and was a bit unusual. Bigger school and better competition in HS as well.
Sparks is similar in some ways, I agree, I am reluctant to predict his being ready however.
Good point that Huggy was in the rotation last year, but not for starters minutes usually. And we had only two other guys who played as big forwards. I am a fan of his effort, and he has improved gradually each year with a reasonable expectation he will again, so it is possible he belongs. Hendricks we are not mentioning here, very disappointing, proved himself not ready, and not any help. If he doesn't come back dialed in, he won't see the court at all.
Huggy will have a harder time this year getting minutes. With more athletes around 6-8 on the roster this year, not just Hazen and Thomas, I expect us to take advantage of that and always have 2 on the floor. If we play small we'll see Cochran and Jones at wing forward.
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Post by 00hmh on Jun 10, 2021 18:57:56 GMT -6
I think we look better on paper than I earlier thought. Here's my depth chart by position: PG Bum-Suokes 2. Cochran-Sellers 3. Pearson-Jones 4. Thomas-Jihad 5. Sparks-Huggins This represents my top 10; possibly my only surprise may be Bum at PG, but I truly see that with Cochran and Sellers at the 2. I am inclined to play our best 5 players as starters with occasional exception for some match up reason. Play the top 10 players more or less regardless of conventional position assignment.
Your 10 all could be in that group. So could others.
Acree should not have to play as such an undersized big forward, now can play as a SF where he is better suited.
Cochran who is a rugged rebounder may also be a wing forward.
I am leaning to say we play 2 from Thomas, Pearson, Jihad, Jones up front most the time, all who you name, that gives us better length up front than last year and a total of 6 guys competing for 120 minutes. Huggy and Sparks have their work cut out.
At guard we have 3-4 other players competing with Sellers for the 80 minutes there, if Cochran plays as a guard. Bumb the guy most likely having a lot of minutes. I don't rule out Windham and Jacobs.
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Post by 00hmh on Jun 11, 2021 5:34:44 GMT -6
I would not hate it if the team takes time to gel and looks good by seasons end.
Hope everyone would agree that such a result would be a good sign for the future with a roster that would have few losses due to graduation, be "balanced," and have proved they could play. Is this a recording? It'd be hit song compared to our March playlist since 2002. I'd rather listen to it than this funeral dirge you are expecting to hear.
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Post by sweep on Jun 11, 2021 7:56:06 GMT -6
I'd rather listen to it than this funeral dirge you are expecting to hear. Aren't you the one who constantly tells us average is the only bar we should ever be expected to clear ?
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Post by 00hmh on Jun 11, 2021 9:47:38 GMT -6
I'd rather listen to it than this funeral dirge you are expecting to hear. Aren't you the one who constantly tells us average is the only bar we should ever be expected to clear ? Hardly. I am clearly on the optimistic end of the spectrum on the forum. Sure, I would not hate it if we took a little time to get it going this year and played well late. This year that could be a pretty good result, basis for better in the future.
Whining about a losing record before we know what the players can do is a little gloomy, I don't want to do that. Discussion of a starting lineup can be divorced from complaining about past failings and predicting inevitable failure.
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