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Post by realitycheck on May 4, 2021 15:32:04 GMT -6
You gotta love how an assistant coach leaving thread spirals into a Sweep vs. 00hmh food fight. It is one of life's simple pleasures to be relished especially when Sherm strafes over them with smart bombs.
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Post by 00hmh on May 4, 2021 15:41:57 GMT -6
In that department the formula perversely rewards so called "prudent" management which the big schools find easier to do and BSU just can't do.
Not sure what is "perverse" about that, and Ball State can do it, we just consistently don't do it. Why, because we make demonstratively dumb decisions over and over again. The situation with Whitford's contract is a good example of how unprofessionally our top administrators handle common problems. I see. We obviously should have followed IU's example of prudent financial management with their coaching position.
But, c'mon, this is not a good example at all of university management problems that are addressed in the funding formula.
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Post by sweep on May 4, 2021 15:56:19 GMT -6
Not sure what is "perverse" about that, and Ball State can do it, we just consistently don't do it. Why, because we make demonstratively dumb decisions over and over again. The situation with Whitford's contract is a good example of how unprofessionally our top administrators handle common problems.
But, c'mon, this is not a good example at all of university management problems that are addressed in the funding formula.
It's an example of bad decision making, when dealing with a simple common occurrence. I didn't say it had anything directly to do with our funding situation. How dense are you ? Oh I think it's safe to say the IU System admits more than it's fair share of Ivy Tech grads. I don't even know why I engage you in conversation. |
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Post by 00hmh on May 4, 2021 16:57:37 GMT -6
IU does not accept the same proportion of at risk students. Nor, given their enrollment constraints, and program requirements, they do not get a "a fair share" of the IVTC transfers.
Why do you believe that?
This thread is about our funding, is it really too much to expect your post to be relevant.
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Post by sweep on May 4, 2021 17:16:59 GMT -6
IU does not accept the same proportion of at risk students. Nor, given their enrollment constraints, and program requirements, they do not get a "a fair share" of the IVTC transfers. Why do you believe that?- Ever been on the IUPUI campus or any of the other IU regional campuses. This thread is about our funding, is it really too much to expect your post to be relevant.- No the thread is about Grunkemeyer leaving, you as usual turned it into a funding issue. |
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Post by prestonp on May 4, 2021 17:50:19 GMT -6
"If anything the BSU decision to support MCS public schools, which was not Mearns', probably hurt us in a legislature that favors charter schools."
You totally are ignorant with that statement. This University has supported failed Charters over and over for years, and if you think MCS is not a charter you are a fool sir. The entire district had special laws from the legislature that took away all teaching bargaining rights from MCS teachers and created a hand picked board that is appointed by the University. Public school my ass.
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Post by williamtsherman on May 4, 2021 17:53:09 GMT -6
Bane
Longwood
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Post by rgmillikan on May 4, 2021 18:15:50 GMT -6
Maybe Whit is planning to pull a 'Lembo' and move on as well. Hopefully Maryland is in dire need of an assistant basketball coach! |
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Post by rgmillikan on May 4, 2021 18:16:59 GMT -6
This move suggests a decision has been reached...next season is a write off. Does seem more likely that he wont be extended this Spring, which is a good thing. |
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Post by rgmillikan on May 4, 2021 18:21:35 GMT -6
Good God, our Athletic Department is just plain incompetent. This is exactly why handling contracts in an ethical manner is so important. Letting Whitford twist in the wind is just wrong on so many levels. This is professional negligence on the part of the AD and University President. I am no fan of Whitford, but no one deserves this. If Goetz is getting pushback on letting Whitford go, I dont have a problem with not extending him. If they extend him, then next yr and the yr after we the fans will be fed more excuses about how they cant afford to move on. Goetz gets lots of hate on the boards, but Mark Sandy was the clown who extended Whitford twice. Is it a lousy deal for Whitford? Yes, and I dont dislike Whitford as a human being. But it's clear to anyone who isnt a blund fanboy that he "isnt the guy" for this program. Not to mention when EMU let Murphys contract expire this year a few people here said they were more progressive than Ball State. |
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Post by rgmillikan on May 4, 2021 18:25:35 GMT -6
But we still have basketballs!! Not as bad as when Ronnie Thompson was here. I would also view this as an indication Whitford isn't getting an extension. Grunkemeyer would have a pretty good read on whether his job was secure for the next few years at BSU under Whitford. 100%. Its the equivalent of a tell in poker. Next yr is the finale of the Whitford era |
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Post by 00hmh on May 4, 2021 18:54:33 GMT -6
"If anything the BSU decision to support MCS public schools, which was not Mearns', probably hurt us in a legislature that favors charter schools." This University has supported failed Charters over and over for years, and if you think MCS is not a charter you are a fool sir. The entire district had special laws from the legislature that took away all teaching bargaining rights from MCS teachers and created a hand picked board that is appointed by the University. Public school my ass. But it's not private either. It uses public property, retains a great deal of MCS organization including school bus and open enrollment. Our legislature is enamored with private small scale charters. This is not, and it accepts most premises of community public education. And it's obligations to the whole community. I see your point about the differences, though. BSU has a checkered record with charters I agree also. Maybe better than average, since charter schools have checkered record at best. But despite shaking up MCS, this is not like any charter in the country. It saves a public school system if it works. I am a skeptic, not wildly optimistic on this project being a good idea for BSU. But it is short term good for Muncie. I live here, so that's good, but just don't think it helps my university. We have big enough problems without taking on what may be a losing battle longer term. This addresses some real problems with public education, creates a new model for governance built around professionals from town and gown, not just teachers and parents, the same old school board model. But. BSU is not creating a private entity, and hardly the same scale as most charters, and it is not something charter advocates welcomed. |
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Post by realitycheck on May 4, 2021 19:25:09 GMT -6
And on an unrelated note, Grunk is still leaving.
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Post by rmcalhoun on May 4, 2021 20:17:44 GMT -6
So grunk is leaving
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Post by JacksonStreetElite on May 4, 2021 20:43:46 GMT -6
And on an unrelated note, Grunk is still leaving. If you want to talk about Grunk you should create a topic for it rather than derail the conversation here. |
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