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Post by BSU Card Fan in AZ on Apr 28, 2022 14:17:22 GMT -6
Whatever the situation is, set the tone now so everyone knows what to expect. This manager thing seems odd to me.
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Post by cardfan on Apr 28, 2022 14:28:36 GMT -6
Whatever the situation is, set the tone now so everyone knows what to accept. This manager thing seems odd to me. Any coach with a hope of being successful sets the tone from day 1 and it is not ambiguous. Having not observed anything and not knowing who's been telling who what, we just don't really know what's real and what are some misunderstandings/mischaracterizations/dudes not used to getting yelled at or corrected and they got their feelings hurt, etc. etc. I'll just wait to see how we look next season and who's on the team. Hearsay and rumors aren't real helpful. The variant stories about Brown are proof enough that we really don't know what goes on. We'll just have to wait and see.
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Post by williamtsherman on Apr 28, 2022 15:37:18 GMT -6
Neither being the nice guy players' coach nor being the hard-ass demanding coach is any guarantee of anything. Both types succeed and both types fail. Hearing that Lewis may be the demanding type doesn't make me any more optimistic or less optimistic. Seeing how he works the portal in coming weeks will be a much MUCH bigger tell.
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Post by loganberrie on Apr 28, 2022 18:57:40 GMT -6
Last week I went into the temporary ticket office that oversees the Shondell Training Center where the basketball team has been practicing to buy volleyball tournament tickets. I asked the ticket manager if he has been watching the team practice thru the windows. With a smile on his face he said “no, but I can sure here Coach Lewis yelling at players during practice.” His voice resonates right thru the window!” No question Lewis is setting the tone and making his presence known with his players and managers in his first year as a head coach.
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Post by coastalcard on Apr 29, 2022 7:26:37 GMT -6
I am really wondering how much a Lewis practice is different from a Hunsaker practice from a time far, far away? 🤔
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Post by cardfan on Apr 29, 2022 7:49:42 GMT -6
I am really wondering how much a Lewis practice is different from a Hunsaker practice from a time far, far away? 🤔 My guess--not much.
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Post by jburton on Apr 29, 2022 8:27:51 GMT -6
I am really wondering how much a Lewis practice is different from a Hunsaker practice from a time far, far away? 🤔 I spent some time in the military so hunsaker was a pussy-cat by my standards but I loved how he cursed like a sailor. I had time to kill between classes and sat in on his practices for an entire semester one year. I found it fascinating that the focus of every practice was defensive scheme game preparation and rebounding drills with practically no mention of offense.
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Post by 00hmh on Apr 29, 2022 9:09:12 GMT -6
I am really wondering how much a Lewis practice is different from a Hunsaker practice from a time far, far away? 🤔 I spent some time in the military so hunsaker was a pussy-cat by my standards but I loved how he cursed like a sailor. I had time to kill between classes and sat in on his practices for an entire semester one year. I found it fascinating that the focus of every practice was defensive scheme game preparation and rebounding drills with practically no mention of offense. Good post. I probably saw you there in practice, I had the same experience and reaction.
Watch a Bob Knight practice and you got a taste of a basic training drill sergeant at work. Hunsaker was tough, he was foul mouthed, but he was not quite that level of singling out and going after a player driving him to the point of breaking. Not quite pussycat either. When he was mad though he was scary. Red faced, fire in his eyes, thought he might choke on his whistle.
A practice with Majerus and Hunsaker was really interesting. Rick could let Hunsaker do a lot of the initial screaming to get players attention, then step in, gather everyone together and have their total attention. Didn't have to always be really mad, maybe just simmering, very stern and serious. It allowed him to be almost a good cop by comparison. I thought practices with Hunsaker as head coach maybe even notched up a little in intensity. Some of that was the players, those teams had learned they were good as a team and they responded more like the IU teams did to Knight where they listened to what he had to say, not how he said it. BSU players understood 100% it was in the interest of team being better to keep that individual level of focus and effort.
The biggest difference between BSU and IU was that IU players often came in as high powered recruits and had to have egos flattened a bit to all get on the same page. Had to learn talent was no excuse not to do it right. BSU players came in with a lot less hype, more to prove, more an underdog mentality and appreciated more easily that the tough coaching was elevating them into a powerful team, not so much giving up their own status for the team.
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Post by 00hmh on Apr 29, 2022 9:24:59 GMT -6
I am really wondering how much a Lewis practice is different from a Hunsaker practice from a time far, far away? 🤔 I found it fascinating that the focus of every practice was defensive scheme game preparation and rebounding drills with practically no mention of offense. Well a lot of that was the Majerus/Hunsaker emphasis on offensive rebounding. Not that we didn't have an offensive philosophy of getting and taking good shots, but the offense was not so much about getting high efficiency on the initial shot. You took shots in the offensive flow but knew you had Kidd and McCurdy hungry to go after the ball. Chandler, even the guards hit the boards. Maybe except Billy Butts.
Ask Paris McCurdy when you see him and he'll tell you you are absolutely right. I have heard him say he was so focused on defense effort he was had to almost rest on offense, not looking for shots himself, not until the ball up went up on the board...
He was going to beat his man to the ball, and the whole team, much more man on man, beat your man to the spot. That leveraged their toughness and individual effort which was their team strength. A lot of very tough guys.
Most teams today if you have one guy on the team with that attitude he stands out as an anomaly.
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Post by comet on Apr 29, 2022 9:51:06 GMT -6
Interesting stuff guys. Appreciate all the insight. Glad to see the ramp up of intensity, but then again, I hope Lewis is too extreme.
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Post by cardfan on Apr 29, 2022 10:27:04 GMT -6
I found it fascinating that the focus of every practice was defensive scheme game preparation and rebounding drills with practically no mention of offense. Well a lot of that was the Majerus/Hunsaker emphasis on offensive rebounding. Not that we didn't have an offensive philosophy of getting and taking good shots, but the offense was not so much about getting high efficiency on the initial shot. You took shots in the offensive flow but knew you had Kidd and McCurdy hungry to go after the ball. Chandler, even the guards hit the boards. Maybe except Billy Butts.
Ask Paris McCurdy when you see him and he'll tell you you are absolutely right. I have heard him say he was so focused on defense effort he was had to almost rest on offense, not looking for shots himself, not until the ball up went up on the board...
He was going to beat his man to the ball, and the whole team, much more man on man, beat your man to the spot. That leveraged their toughness and individual effort which was their team strength. A lot of very tough guys.
Most teams today if you have one guy on the team with that attitude he stands out as an anomaly.
Sparks.....
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Post by david75bsu on Apr 29, 2022 14:13:31 GMT -6
I am really wondering how much a Lewis practice is different from a Hunsaker practice from a time far, far away? 🤔 I spent some time in the military so hunsaker was a pussy-cat by my standards but I loved how he cursed like a sailor. I had time to kill between classes and sat in on his practices for an entire semester one year. I found it fascinating that the focus of every practice was defensive scheme game preparation and rebounding drills with practically no mention of offense. As a Navy veteran, always wondered why “curse like a sailor” was used so much? As for Dick Hunsaker, he was my favorite Ball State coach. Loved his defense, always had enough defense to win most games.
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Post by jburton on Apr 29, 2022 14:22:20 GMT -6
I spent some time in the military so hunsaker was a pussy-cat by my standards but I loved how he cursed like a sailor. I had time to kill between classes and sat in on his practices for an entire semester one year. I found it fascinating that the focus of every practice was defensive scheme game preparation and rebounding drills with practically no mention of offense. As a Navy veteran, always wondered why “curse like a sailor” was used so much? As for Dick Hunsaker, he was my favorite Ball State coach. Loved his defense, always had enough defense to win most games. Not sure whose Navy you were in, but when I came off of a cruise it was always "pass the damn salt", "have you seen my fucking keys, Dad"... It was pretty vulgar by any standard and completely common onboard the Nimitz. This was a long long time ago before women were on combat ships... Think "Lord of the flies" but with more rules. We even went as far as to have these insane wrestling matches in the shop mostly out of boredom between flight ops. We had a stencil in our shop and would on occasion wrestle a member of another shop to the ground and spray paint our stencil onto his chest. It was bananas at times.
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Post by officerfarva on Apr 29, 2022 15:13:35 GMT -6
As a Navy veteran, always wondered why “curse like a sailor” was used so much? As for Dick Hunsaker, he was my favorite Ball State coach. Loved his defense, always had enough defense to win most games. Not sure whose Navy you were in, but when I came off of a cruise it was always "pass the damn salt", "have you seen my fucking keys, Dad"... It was pretty vulgar by any standard and completely common onboard the Nimitz. This was a long long time ago before women were on combat ships... Think "Lord of the flies" but with more rules. We even went as far as to have these insane wrestling matches in the shop mostly out of boredom between flight ops. We had a stencil in our shop and would on occasion wrestle a member of another shop to the ground and spray paint our stencil onto his chest. It was bananas at times. Fellas, we all know that if they were serious about the phrase, it'd actually be "curse like a Marine"...
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Post by jburton on Apr 29, 2022 16:15:08 GMT -6
Fellas, we all know that if they were serious about the phrase, it'd actually be "curse like a Marine"...
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