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Post by villagepub on Nov 9, 2022 21:22:24 GMT -6
If we win one of the next two, we’re in a bowl (probably). Neu’s best known chance of doing this is with Paddock. Unfortunately, if we lose to OU, doesn’t matter because Neu believes our best chance is with Paddock. Are the 2-3 (including Cobb) backups better? Maybe - don’t know in game/game speed. Won’t know until we see their fast decision-making skills. On a side, what is up with our incredibly talented WR corps and Paddock. With the unstoppable run threat (Steele, and even relatively good backups outside of Steele), what has happened. Has Neu and Lynch overcomplicated things? We have 3 outstanding WRs (Tyler, Jackson and the new SEC/Vanderbilt guy), and 2 towering sure-handed TE’s. This is ridiculous. What is going on? There were a couple plays where we had Toledo-like big play TD’s available (UT won on big plays), and Paddock was looking for someone else. So frustrating. Lynch, Neu …. What’s up with that?! Paddock has gamer moxy, but seems to have a Lynch-ish governor preventing that moxy/talent from materializing. WTH. Best bet right now is for Paddock to understand where he was (in his head, and in practice) during the Murray State, GA Southern and NIU weeks and where he currently is during the Toledo week. He is not the same QB right now. Needs to fix whatever it is! BSU needs an omnidirectional offense to be unpredicteable during the next two games. If it is the Offensive Coordinator that is the problem, then call it out. It must be fixed. |
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Post by villagepub on Nov 9, 2022 21:31:04 GMT -6
Dark Navy and black are too close together in the color (or neutral) spectrum. Stay with dark navy. Now, WMU tonight wore a steel grey uni that offset their normal shit brown and piss yellow. An EXCELLENT choice!! Steel gray made the brown and yellow POP! I never give them props due to their regular "port-a-let" ensemble, but the grey worked. |
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Post by rmcalhoun on Nov 9, 2022 21:40:01 GMT -6
We are already behind the 8 ball while graduating anchors on the D And losing Steele a possibility Wait a minute! I thought the threads at the beginning of the year was that we would struggle this year with new guys and it would all come together next year? Is this same story, different year? Different story because not one of us thought we would be 5-5 because of 1 running back and good defense. We thought if we were 5-5 it would be because paddock was a decent time good qb who could get better which is not at all the case |
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Post by rmcalhoun on Nov 9, 2022 21:56:13 GMT -6
CMU had Zero healthy running backs tonight. They inserted a back up qb who then rushed for nearly 300 yards and knocked off Buffalo
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Post by villagepub on Nov 9, 2022 22:05:40 GMT -6
Wait a minute! I thought the threads at the beginning of the year was that we would struggle this year with new guys and it would all come together next year? Is this same story, different year? Different story because not one of us thought we would be 5-5 because of 1 running back and good defense. We thought if we were 5-5 it would be because paddock was a decent time good qb who could get better which is not at all the case No. Same story, only some of us are illiterate. |
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Post by chirprising on Nov 9, 2022 22:31:30 GMT -6
I’m watching western they switched Qbs true freshman now on his third start leading at NIU Northern has a couple backs this year Toledo used a couple As have EMU, Kent, Bg Those are just teams I know off the top of my head So again next year is either Paddock or a qb with zero snaps We are already behind the 8 ball while graduating anchors on the D And losing Steele a possibility 1) Only one team in the MAC has a QB who has made every single passing attempt for their team and it’s Ball State. 2) Only one team has such a huge gap between their #1 and #2 running backs in terms of carries and it’s Ball State. 3) There is a very different philosophy to developing players on the offensive side of the ball at Ball State. 4) If you have such low trust in players that you’re not putting them in the game at all, then you have recruited the wrong players-or failed to develop-those players. |
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Post by rmcalhoun on Nov 9, 2022 23:30:07 GMT -6
Ball States has 5 wins. Those wins have came from opponents who are a combined 17-33. UConn at 5-5 is our best win
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Post by rmcalhoun on Nov 9, 2022 23:31:57 GMT -6
I’m watching western they switched Qbs true freshman now on his third start leading at NIU Northern has a couple backs this year Toledo used a couple As have EMU, Kent, Bg Those are just teams I know off the top of my head So again next year is either Paddock or a qb with zero snaps We are already behind the 8 ball while graduating anchors on the D And losing Steele a possibility 1) Only one team in the MAC has a QB who has made every single passing attempt for their team and it’s Ball State. 2) Only one team has such a huge gap between their #1 and #2 running backs in terms of carries and it’s Ball State. 3) There is a very different philosophy to developing players on the offensive side of the ball at Ball State. 4) If you have such low trust in players that you’re not putting them in the game at all, then you have recruited the wrong players -or failed to develop-those players. we ride players till they die. Huntley, Hall and now Steele |
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Post by cardfan on Nov 10, 2022 4:57:22 GMT -6
I’m watching western they switched Qbs true freshman now on his third start leading at NIU Northern has a couple backs this year Toledo used a couple As have EMU, Kent, Bg Those are just teams I know off the top of my head So again next year is either Paddock or a qb with zero snaps We are already behind the 8 ball while graduating anchors on the D And losing Steele a possibility 1) Only one team in the MAC has a QB who has made every single passing attempt for their team and it’s Ball State. 2) Only one team has such a huge gap between their #1 and #2 running backs in terms of carries and it’s Ball State. 3) There is a very different philosophy to developing players on the offensive side of the ball at Ball State. 4) If you have such low trust in players that you’re not putting them in the game at all, then you have recruited the wrong players-or failed to develop-those players. Exactly. We have talent on offense in the program. We do not develop it and we don’t use it. So guys leave and we are annually a 5 winish program. Not much better than that. There’s GOT to be frustration on that side of the ball. |
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Post by coastalcard on Nov 10, 2022 5:50:04 GMT -6
🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
Random thought…….Huntley, Steele…🤔
Didn’t I hear on a TV game one time that a running game opens up your passing game?
Apparently they were wrong.
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Post by redbirdman on Nov 10, 2022 9:18:48 GMT -6
My thinking always was if you think a kid is worth a scholarship you get them into some games. Neu's reluctance to play people is something I can't understand. It's probably even worse today for us than in the past because of players easy ability to transfer. We should have played back ups certainly against both Murray & Tennessee. It's just wrong to not get kids in the games for two to three years if you gave them a scholarship. This team is not winning a championship play some other people the last two weeks they might even return next year.
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Post by BSUMike on Nov 10, 2022 9:29:24 GMT -6
I wonder if us running Steele 30 plays a game gives us a better or worse shot at keeping him around next year… I think an argument could be made on both sides of the argument. I guess a person would need to be close personally with the player to know for sure.
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Post by JacksonStreetElite on Nov 10, 2022 9:50:08 GMT -6
1) Only one team in the MAC has a QB who has made every single passing attempt for their team and it’s Ball State. I think this is irrelevant without context. How many of those backups played due to injury? How many teams switched starters would be more relevant, but would also need consideration of where they were in the season and whether the switch worked. 2) Only one team has such a huge gap between their #1 and #2 running backs in terms of carries and it’s Ball State. No other team has Carson Steele. 3) There is a very different philosophy to developing players on the offensive side of the ball at Ball State. Besides Steele seeming to get stronger every time someone hits him I don't think I've really seen any player development on either side of the ball. Plitt maybe got a little less reckless with the ball, but his starting point was insanely reckless, so that's not much. 4) If you have such low trust in players that you’re not putting them in the game at all, then you have recruited the wrong players-or failed to develop-those players. While a lot of positions need some rotation, you put your best players on the field as much as possible. The Chiefs never play Chad Henne at QB. Did they hire the wrong guy? Or do you just not play Chad Henne when Patrick Mahomes is ready to go? And to the few of you out there who are going to think I'm saying Paddock = Mahomes, that's not what I'm saying. |
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Post by cardfan on Nov 10, 2022 10:04:30 GMT -6
4) If you have such low trust in players that you’re not putting them in the game at all, then you have recruited the wrong players-or failed to develop-those players. While a lot of positions need some rotation, you put your best players on the field as much as possible. The Chiefs never play Chad Henne at QB. Did they hire the wrong guy? Or do you just not play Chad Henne when Patrick Mahomes is ready to go? And to the few of you out there who are going to think I'm saying Paddock = Mahomes, that's not what I'm saying. But with all the kids who do not play, why did we recruit them in the first place if it turns out either A: they just won't develop into good starters (in which case you failed to project their future well) or B: the staff is not good at developing talent, in which case it doesn't matter how good the recruit is if the coaches can't help them develop to the level of being "playable." In the NFL you hire backups to be backups. Players who are career backups have demonstrated that's what they are. When a college coach recruits a kid he doesn't think "this guy will be a solid backup in case the guy in front gets injured." Sure, college coaches recruit for depth, but they aren't selling kids on "someday you'll make a good backup for us. You might never play, but by golly we'll feel good about having your ass on the bench with us." No, they recruit the kelly's and Barfield's and Pembertons, and any number of WR that came in with good credentials out of HS but never saw the field and left with the idea that they'll transition to be starters at some point, or at least be rotational. I get that QB's are not rotational or you've got a problem, but when you can't recruit a kid to supplant a 5th year guy who couldn't supplant Plitt, even last year, then what are we doing and why? Last year CMU had Lew Nicholls as a super stud RB. (he's been hurt this year) So yeah, he got to carry the mail A LOT. But they also had effective backs they put in to give him a breather or throw a different look/style at the defense. Us, we give Pemberton or Jones a couple carries and ask them to run the same off tackle plays as Steele. There is no change of pace back and there's no back they are willing to give 10 carries to just to make sure Steele is as fresh as possible in the 4th. I see the same thing with the WR's. Yo has not been effective this year. But do we play his back up much and try to get the ball to that back up? Nope. Do we try to integrate any of our rotational backups on offense into the game plans so they can show their stuff or provide something of substance? Nope. They go out and run some dummy routes and then come off the field. How do they learn anything that way? We've had a number of guys on offense leave the program the last couple of years because there's just no opportunity. At least one WR has already left this year, plus Brentson and McGougy last spring. Our RB and WR rooms look a bit barren when you take all the walkons out of consideration. Again, what are we doing? The defense plays alot of guys and they get the chance to make plays, learn things, and develop. (could still be better at spots) The offense seems like a place where talent gets lost/buried. |
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Post by sdacardinal on Nov 10, 2022 10:47:28 GMT -6
Is anybody on this board close enough to Neu to discuss some of these concerns that we all have?
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