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Post by DaRegion on Nov 23, 2022 4:53:46 GMT -6
Dig me a hole Mike Neu because you're killing me.
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Post by frozenbaugh on Nov 23, 2022 5:28:50 GMT -6
I’m still really angry. That’s after having slept on it. That made me angrier.
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Post by thebsukid on Nov 23, 2022 6:03:19 GMT -6
I’m going to ask this one more time as I’m terribly perplexed as to why late in the game on 4th and two feet why didn’t we have Kelly under center with Steele in the backfield??
The Defense in my view could not have totally keyed on Steele. To me, this was a no brainer.
Neu will clearly stick around but hopefully he finally makes some major staff changes
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Post by coastalcard on Nov 23, 2022 6:31:15 GMT -6
“Neu will clearly stick around but hopefully he finally makes some major staff changes”
Beth is only one that would possibly force Neu to juggle his staff. She’s gone. Everyone in AD dept is in pete LIMBO mode right now. New AD won't want to rock the boat. Neu doesn't see where his weaknesses are. We got what we got.
By the time anyone will reach a logical conclusion, there will be a whole new generation of Lynchs' marching down McGalliard.
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Post by frozenbaugh on Nov 23, 2022 7:26:13 GMT -6
Our concerns 3 weeks ago got poo poo’d on Twitter by the local radio guy and the same concerns were the problem last night. I’m too tired to be quote tweeted by him justifying whatever.
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Post by ballstfan on Nov 23, 2022 7:39:34 GMT -6
Said it before week 1..Paddock was suspect. My main concern going into next year is who is QB1? Does Neu really have the balls to bench a healthy red shirt senior “tough cardinal” who he claims is the best passer he’s had at Ball U? If he rolls w Paddock next year I’m checked out…
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Post by bsutony on Nov 23, 2022 8:27:51 GMT -6
I’m still really angry. That’s after having slept on it. That made me angrier. Same, it still stings. Miami was giving us the game for 3 and a half quarters. We had so many chances to put the game away. We let them stay in the game and they took advantage of it.
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Post by zonebuster on Nov 23, 2022 8:37:35 GMT -6
I’m still really angry. That’s after having slept on it. That made me angrier. Yep! It’s going to take awhile to get over this epic collapse!!! So many chances to close the door on Miami!!
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Post by Lurkin McGurkin on Nov 23, 2022 8:58:24 GMT -6
The offense got a good lead, then quit. That's a problem with coaching. You have to keep your players focused, and not get too comfortable when you have a good lead.
And let's just stop right now with the idea that Neu is going anywhere. He will not get fired this offseason. He will not resign. He will be our coach on opening day 2023.
The question is, who will be starting at QB? Paddock? Kelly? Semonza? Blazek? Other? Will Steele transfer? What about the receiving corps?
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Post by frozenbaugh on Nov 23, 2022 9:06:52 GMT -6
One thing I will never understand until I get to heaven is that the offense was clearly struggling 3-4 games ago. To be clear, I wanted Kelly in then at least for some snaps. Yet, Neu puts him in in the most important game of the season? If Kelly wasn’t ready 3 games ago, he is for the one that makes or breaks a season?
Kelly could have helped win 1-2 of those losses.
Sigh.
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Post by cardfan on Nov 23, 2022 9:11:00 GMT -6
The offense got a good lead, then quit. That's a problem with coaching. You have to keep your players focused, and not get too comfortable when you have a good lead. And let's just stop right now with the idea that Neu is going anywhere. He will not get fired this offseason. He will not resign. He will be our coach on opening day 2023. The question is, who will be starting at QB? Paddock? Kelly? Semonza? Blazek? Other? Will Steele transfer? What about the receiving corps? All true and all good questions. I think the personnel on offense courts look quite a bit different next year with the portal. Neu spouted the same tired bullshit after the game. “Obviously tough way to lose, proud blah blah blah. Zero self awareness sbout his role in the 4th qtr collapse we’ve seen so often during his tenure. The details of how to win escape him. So we are always making mistakes and calling brain dead, unimaginative plays and fail to close out wins. Beyond frustrating.
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Post by lmills72 on Nov 23, 2022 9:22:28 GMT -6
After seeing Kelly play, I'm not as pissed that he didn't play more at quarterback; I'm just pissed that he wasn't on the field all year.
Could the coaching staff not see what he does to defenses? He runs with vision, he makes people miss, and he doesn't go down easy. We had nobody else on the field like that all year. And yes, I know defenses would begin game planning for him, but I still believe if you got him on the field and got him the ball in space, he's going to at least make one person miss and you're going to get a nice gain. He would at least been another weapon defenses had to account for? Surely they didn't lose the playbook from 2021 when Justin Hall was on the team.
Knowing that they worked with him at receiver, how could you not put him on the field? Maybe that good old Neu loyalty extends beyond Paddock to folks like Jackson and Tyler.
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Post by lmills72 on Nov 23, 2022 9:26:43 GMT -6
"Hey Coach, what happened to being ranked?" or "Really deserved that contract extension, huh?." Just a couple thoughts. he deserved the extension when he got it. Now he deserves the blame for ruining a what could have been a better than expected season. Now he better hope he hits gold in the portal cause next year on paper does not look any better. Until tonight he seat was only warm to the most hard core fans now it’s hot to even the casual fan. He still has firing of lynch to buy himself an extra year. I suppose he will wait to use that till next off season So question on Lynch. I know there's the Neu loyalty to the Lynch family there, but I also always got he impression when he was elevated that he was the cheap choice, that there really wansn't money available to actually go out and get somebody decent. True or false?
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Post by bsutony on Nov 23, 2022 9:28:15 GMT -6
After seeing Kelly play, I'm not as pissed that he didn't play more at quarterback; I'm just pissed that he wasn't on the field all year. Could the coaching staff not see what he does to defenses? He runs with vision, he makes people miss, and he doesn't go down easy. We had nobody else on the field like that all year. And yes, I know defenses would begin game planning for him, but I still believe if you got him on the field and got him the ball in space, he's going to at least make one person miss and you're going to get a nice gain. He would at least been another weapon defenses had to account for? Surely they didn't lose the playbook from 2021 when Justin Hall was on the team. Knowing that they worked with him at receiver, how could you not put him on the field? Maybe that good old Neu loyalty extends beyond Paddock to folks like Jackson and Tyler. Absolutely. He was explosive in the open field. Nobody else on the team comes close to that level of speed and vision. It's unforgivable that he didn't get on the field earlier. Terrible coaching decisions.
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Post by 00hmh on Nov 23, 2022 9:29:35 GMT -6
This was a late night frustration event. We all watched a game where our hopes were high and dashed. One of the most disappointing fan experiences in a long history of Miami games I have attended and suffered through.
For most of the game, I was really happy, really happy. I had feared we would not be in this game against a pretty good Miami D. Turns out our D made some good plays, and their offense was not very good until their last few possessions and we were missed tackle or two from containing them, a long pass play completion by them away.
On offense we weren't good, but we never were all season, and in this game played well enough to just be a single play, 4th and inches first down, short of a win. Not to mention a couple of penalties... Like any game multiple things might have gone differently to win, and to be fair, multiple things might have meant we had no chance. The defense made good but also had critical bad plays, the offense game through just often enough to put us in position.
This was the story of our season in many ways and it was after all what we had expected going into the first games. (Karma payback for MAC championship where everything went well?) After we missed winning two games early, this game had looked for weeks just like what we saw.
I am not buying we could have somehow been a lot better this year, our team had limitations, and Paddock was and his receivers were one weak spot. I am not buying the coaches are idiots, even when I disagree with a play call or a personnel decision. It's too easy to second guess the plays that went wrong, and very hard to tell what disasters they coaches avoided with other decisions. We were not somehow a coach or player away from a championship. We won a game, maybe two, we didn't expect. 6 wins was possible, but not a betting favorite for 3 weeks.
The big debate here is the QB position. Operating within a very constrained set of plays, Kelly did a great job, but the coaches knew what he could do, protected him from his weaknesses, too. The speculation that with a wide open play book he would/could have been much better is not as clear to me as to others here. Speculation we would have overall been better off to bench Paddock early in the season is even less clear.
Everyone agrees and for weeks we have all said we could have used this kind of change of pace role earlier. That seems justified. It's a good question for the coach. Completely fair criticism. OTOH teams would have been better prepared for him had we done that much earlier, he might have been forced into making mistakes we did not see last night, had he played a lot more. His weaknesses discovered.
Bottom line: not much to be happy about, but the way we delayed using the running QB in the end meant we had a new weapon in the big last game, and no doubt that helped us to the brink of a big win.
With a freshman recruit phenom coming on board, with the chance to see K in Spring, that is exciting. Whether we see any coaching strategy change or not, we should be better at that position next year. You would expect some things to be different, I with or without major coaching change.
The big question is can we retain our best players, develop some better receiving, add a key piece or two on the OL, that seems more what I want to do than relive this game, or keep perseverating about play calling, previous coaching decisions and game plans. It's collective venting about an awful ending to last night, but I am trying to get over the hangover...
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