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Post by chirpsquared on Mar 10, 2023 11:22:21 GMT -6
Good season overall with a disappointing finish. We have talented players and hope they stick around to keep building. If they don't, I worry about the next few seasons and think it will be telling.
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Post by rusty on Mar 10, 2023 12:27:28 GMT -6
Good season not great I hope success in keeping our players and a good recruitment!
Disappointed with the end but I truly believe Lewis is on the right trajectory up!
Ready for good recruiting and next season.
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Post by bsu0 on Mar 10, 2023 12:31:39 GMT -6
New coach with a team some other coach left him. That being said, he deserves some time to bring in more talent. He should expect some misgivings about the end of the season and MAC tourney performance. There were some bright spots this season but to lose to Ohio by twenty is disappointing. Let all take a deep breath and see what kind of a recruiting job the staff does this coming year. We need better players. This is not a secret and the coaches will have their work cut out for them. You must give this coach time to mold the type of team he is comfortable with. I hope the entire staff is out recruiting at this very moment. Good luck coach, you will need it.
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Post by prestonp on Mar 10, 2023 12:59:07 GMT -6
I think it was still a great season in that it has made BSU basketball relevant again despite shitting the bed at the MAC. Recruiting will be a priority if it hasn't been already. There were signs all season what he expects of his team and I was impressed how players got better this season. The portal in or out will be interesting to watch. I would also love to see this program receive some more athletic department funding to insure the positives to grow.
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Post by williamtsherman on Mar 10, 2023 13:20:17 GMT -6
Shame that there wasnt a strong resurgence of COVID, then Lewis could have matched our best post season performance of the millennium, 2020.
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Post by kdsnakebsu2 on Mar 10, 2023 15:11:19 GMT -6
Meet the new coach. Same as the old coach. Nope, nope, nope... Lewis is the real deal. A 20 game winner in his first season, with someone else's players? He's the guy. The injuries at season's end were likely more troubling than we know. Dog, all those players are from Whit! Do you have any idea how blessed Lewis was? He could've been left with what Whit had to start here, which was an absolutely awful team! Michael Lewis is a good coach, but these players come from Whit. It was a good season, but he didn't bring any contributors in this year. He also had the benefit of being a new coach, (which players buy into easier) than one that's been there for a while and can seem boring or like the system isn't working. He's the guy. Sure. Nice playoff performance, Michael. |
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Post by kdsnakebsu2 on Mar 10, 2023 15:16:48 GMT -6
If you have any concerns about how Mike Lewis is leading this program and how he is emotionally anchored to our university and the guys that play for him you HAVE to watch his post-game presser! Man I hope we have Mike Lewis for a long, long time. This guy is the person to lead this program! You can watch it on You tube. The emotional anchor is wonderful. I'm happy for you that you derive such satisfaction from that. My concerns, however, are more along the lines of putting forth a lackluster effort and getting our ass kicked in by a team that is not better than us in the most important game of the year. I guess I would somewhat prefer an emotionally adrift coach who wins MAC tourney games. In fact, I would prefer a can of cat food, a used Kleenex, or some child's invisible, imaginary friend that wins MAC tourney games over any of the coaches we've had over the last 23 years. It's really, REALLY easy to say the things he says after being handed a team full of talent by a coach on the way out. The team that Lewis inherited was very talented, they were just young last year, and, we can all agree, Whit's time was up. But he has not by any means done a great job, and it's a stretch to say he's done a good job! We played a very, very weak non-conference schedule, followed up by an up and down conference season, all wrapped up with a nice little bow by a 20 point Ohio loss in the 1st round of the tournament. He will need to do more before I can say he's done a good job. |
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Post by cardfan on Mar 10, 2023 15:22:17 GMT -6
The emotional anchor is wonderful. I'm happy for you that you derive such satisfaction from that. My concerns, however, are more along the lines of putting forth a lackluster effort and getting our ass kicked in by a team that is not better than us in the most important game of the year. I guess I would somewhat prefer an emotionally adrift coach who wins MAC tourney games. In fact, I would prefer a can of cat food, a used Kleenex, or some child's invisible, imaginary friend that wins MAC tourney games over any of the coaches we've had over the last 23 years. It's really, REALLY easy to say the things he says after being handed a team full of talent by a coach on the way out. The team that Lewis inherited was very talented, they were just young last year, and, we can all agree, Whit's time was up. But he has not by any means done a great job, and it's a stretch to say he's done a good job! We played a very, very weak non-conference schedule, followed up by an up and down conference season, all wrapped up with a nice little bow by a 20 point Ohio loss in the 1st round of the tournament. He will need to do more before I can say he's done a good job. Soooo. Getting nominated for the national first year coach of the year award was…. All whit? Or? |
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Post by bsutrack on Mar 10, 2023 16:34:24 GMT -6
Nope, nope, nope... Lewis is the real deal. A 20 game winner in his first season, with someone else's players? He's the guy. The injuries at season's end were likely more troubling than we know. Dog, all those players are from Whit! Do you have any idea how blessed Lewis was? He could've been left with what Whit had to start here, which was an absolutely awful team! We've had this argument before on this website. You probably missed it. The roster Whitford inherited from Taylor wasn't all that bad. Much better than the 5-25 record Whitford got from it in his first year. Jesse Berry was a scoring machine and 3-star recruit. Chris Bond could both score and rebound His only problem was his 6' 4" height. If he had been 6' 6" or 6' 7" he would have been a high major recruit instead of mid-major. Majok Majok was a capable Center who averaged a double, double (11.2 points per game, 10.0 rebounds per game) for his senior year, Whitford's first year. Like Lewis, Whitford was able to hang-on to recruits from the previous coach, Taylor. Both Zavier Turner (12.1 ppg, 3.6 apg) and Franko House (6.0 ppg) recommitted to Whitford after he was hired. Bo Calhoun was also a sophomore on Whitford's first team. The fact Whitford only managed 5 wins out of 30 games with that much talent was a travesty. In hindsight, it was an omen of things to come. |
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Post by 00hmh on Mar 10, 2023 16:59:22 GMT -6
You really think that roster was even close to a good one?
I think Whitford spent 2 years learning some harsh reality about becoming a HC. Did not do well. A low grade for sure.
But had he been totally ready I doubt he'd have won more than 10 games with that group. As it was some players didn't fit his system, some he couldn't coach, and we can blame him. But not enough to say he was going to turn around the team compared to the year below.
It is completely fair about Lewis to say he had significantly more talent this year. He also did a far better job as a new HC. He did manage a turn around.
Whit had put together perhaps his best roster for this year, but I don't think anybody here believes he would have done this well.
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Post by redfeather on Mar 10, 2023 17:48:40 GMT -6
If you have any concerns about how Mike Lewis is leading this program and how he is emotionally anchored to our university and the guys that play for him you HAVE to watch his post-game presser! Man I hope we have Mike Lewis for a long, long time. This guy is the person to lead this program! You can watch it on You tube. The emotional anchor is wonderful. I'm happy for you that you derive such satisfaction from that. My concerns, however, are more along the lines of putting forth a lackluster effort and getting our ass kicked in by a team that is not better than us in the most important game of the year. I guess I would somewhat prefer an emotionally adrift coach who wins MAC tourney games. In fact, I would prefer a can of cat food, a used Kleenex, or some child's invisible, imaginary friend that wins MAC tourney games over any of the coaches we've had over the last 23 years. Show me just one coach that doesn’t build a strong culture with his program and wins big year over year, just one! That just doesn’t happen. Every good coach knows having a strong culture breeds winning programs period. Even Knight had a strong culture that he made, it didn’t fit everyone but that’s not the point get the players that want to play in the culture you build and biluild a hell of a good play tough, be mentally tough, play smart etc and your chances of winning go way up! It all starts with the leader, recruit the best talented guys that fit you system/culture and then watch out! So yeah I’ll take a coach that’s driven and emotionally attached to win any and every day! |
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Post by williamtsherman on Mar 10, 2023 18:40:56 GMT -6
The emotional anchor is wonderful. I'm happy for you that you derive such satisfaction from that. My concerns, however, are more along the lines of putting forth a lackluster effort and getting our ass kicked in by a team that is not better than us in the most important game of the year. I guess I would somewhat prefer an emotionally adrift coach who wins MAC tourney games. In fact, I would prefer a can of cat food, a used Kleenex, or some child's invisible, imaginary friend that wins MAC tourney games over any of the coaches we've had over the last 23 years. Show me just one coach that doesn’t build a strong culture with his program and wins big year over year, just one! That's an obvious tautology. But anyway, a "strong culture" apparently doesn't save a team from falling 30 points behind a mid-level opponent and generally shitting diarrhea down their leg in a conference tourney, so what you would call a "strong culture" seems to be of...you know... limited usefulness. |
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Post by rmcalhoun on Mar 10, 2023 19:14:33 GMT -6
ahhhhh 1 day closer too a nice calm football season. You b ball peopke are cooky
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Post by cardfan on Mar 10, 2023 19:30:00 GMT -6
ahhhhh 1 day closer too a nice calm football season. You b ball peopke are cooky We are … I’m not gonna let a shitty finish ruin what was a pretty solid season and more excitement than we’ve had in awhile. Now we’ll see what Lewis does with it from here. |
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Post by redfeather on Mar 10, 2023 20:23:15 GMT -6
Show me just one coach that doesn’t build a strong culture with his program and wins big year over year, just one! That's an obvious tautology. But anyway, a "strong culture" apparently doesn't save a team from falling 30 points behind a mid-level opponent and generally shitting diarrhea down their leg in a conference tourney, so what you would call a "strong culture" seems to be of...you know... limited usefulness. No not true bc by in its truest sense it does emphasize the point that culture is essential for winning and thus the duality between the two is undeniable. Your point is posed on the past, my point is posed on the future. In other words incommensurable. |
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