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Post by comet on Oct 10, 2023 9:25:10 GMT -6
His contract is through the 2025 season, so all the bitching won't get him fired. Empty stands won't get him fired. Transfers out the wazoo won't get him fired. Losing won't get him fired. It's simple economics. We can't afford to fire him unless someone steps up with the buyout. After this season we'll still owe him $1.3 million, unless we "Mel Tucker" him and fire him for cause. Totally agree, Lurkin, we can all complain, but it ain't likely gonna happen this year. |
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Post by coastalcard on Oct 10, 2023 9:27:06 GMT -6
I didn't realize we had co-offensive coordinators this year
Neu prepping a replacement for when Lynch gets promoted?
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Post by comet on Oct 10, 2023 9:49:52 GMT -6
If it takes two OC's to call the plays that we're seeing, we're really in trouble. Two OC's and a guy that was a QB coach in the NFL and this is what we're getting  |
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Post by cardfan on Oct 10, 2023 9:53:37 GMT -6
His contract is through the 2025 season, so all the bitching won't get him fired. Empty stands won't get him fired. Transfers out the wazoo won't get him fired. Losing won't get him fired. It's simple economics. We can't afford to fire him unless someone steps up with the buyout. After this season we'll still owe him $1.3 million, unless we "Mel Tucker" him and fire him for cause. Oh, we know; we just gotta get it off our chests. Sure can't celebrate any winning, so we'll just whine instead. (and hope that there's enough disgruntled alumni out there that someone with deep enough pockets steps forward) |
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Post by universityjim on Oct 10, 2023 10:17:58 GMT -6
I think we are seeing the first signs of what his explanation is going to be after the season… That still doesn’t explain why he refuses to let Kelly throw the ball, how undisciplined we are, the defense not showing up so far and the brutal offensive play-calling. It is a combination of all those things.
I can see why he is reluctant to have Kelly pass though. He sees the results in practice and Kelly may need those good receivers more than the others.
But, undisciplined play and outright random bonehead errors are a huge problem. Listless play, and lack of energy (especially beginning game} I would add. That is an explanation or cause, but it is inexplicable how it happens on a widespread basis. Defense and Offense.
I don't think it is so inexplicable. The defense has no faith in the offense. They know they are in for a long day on the field even if they play well. Plus if the rumored discontent in the ranks about the coaching and direction is as widespread and disruptive as rumored there is no unified team. Moral is not where it should be. Their focus and faith is broken and that includes the guy at the top. Watching the sideline Saturday will be interesting. |
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Post by universityjim on Oct 10, 2023 10:24:35 GMT -6
His contract is through the 2025 season, so all the bitching won't get him fired. Empty stands won't get him fired. Transfers out the wazoo won't get him fired. Losing won't get him fired. It's simple economics. We can't afford to fire him unless someone steps up with the buyout. After this season we'll still owe him $1.3 million, unless we "Mel Tucker" him and fire him for cause. Oh, we know; we just gotta get it off our chests. Sure can't celebrate any winning, so we'll just whine instead. (and hope that there's enough disgruntled alumni out there that someone with deep enough pockets steps forward) I still say they can make impactful and positive changes without firing Mike, but if that does happen and assistants get booted I don't trust Mike to hire the replacements. |
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Post by cardfan on Oct 10, 2023 10:37:54 GMT -6
Oh, we know; we just gotta get it off our chests. Sure can't celebrate any winning, so we'll just whine instead. (and hope that there's enough disgruntled alumni out there that someone with deep enough pockets steps forward) I still say they can make impactful and positive changes without firing Mike, but if that does happen and assistants get booted I don't trust Mike to hire the replacements. [br Agree. A modern day, forward thinking OC would be a start. But any changes Mike would make would just lead to him hiring more staff from Western and Eastern ILL….. |
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Post by 00hmh on Oct 10, 2023 11:00:24 GMT -6
I still say they can make impactful and positive changes without firing Mike, but if that does happen and assistants get booted I don't trust Mike to hire the replacements. Agree. A modern day, forward thinking OC would be a start. But any changes Mike would make would just lead to him hiring more staff from Western and Eastern ILL….. I doubt the latter, but doubt we find a real significant impact. Even a new OC to be done right is after the season. If we do anything it's rearranging the deck chairs mid season. I would worry far more that any coaching change made is slow to show results. |
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Post by ballstfan on Oct 10, 2023 11:17:44 GMT -6
Guys I promise you if Mearns went to big time donors Neu would be gone tomorrow. Maybe he will wait till the end of the year but watch his body language during pressers. He knows he’s in the crosshairs.
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Post by david75bsu on Oct 10, 2023 11:21:55 GMT -6
Guys I promise you if Mearns went to big time donors Neu would be gone tomorrow. Maybe he will wait till the end of the year but watch his body language during pressers. He knows he’s in the crosshairs. Sad, but true. Ball State deserves better. |
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Post by universityjim on Oct 10, 2023 11:28:58 GMT -6
Agree. A modern day, forward thinking OC would be a start. But any changes Mike would make would just lead to him hiring more staff from Western and Eastern ILL….. I doubt the latter, but doubt we find a real significant impact. Even a new OC to be done right is after the season. If we do anything it's rearranging the deck chairs mid season. I would worry far more that any coaching change made is slow to show results. I agree. I was talking about making changes post season. For now we might clean up some of the nonsensical play calling and regain some focus by rearranging things but not enough to salvage the season. We can afford to replace assistants in the off season and make an impact if someone doesn't step up with money to buy out Mike. Honestly, I don't want to see Mike get fired. He's a brother Cardinal. If he has to go however, he has to go. |
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Post by cardfan on Oct 10, 2023 11:49:09 GMT -6
I doubt the latter, but doubt we find a real significant impact. Even a new OC to be done right is after the season. If we do anything it's rearranging the deck chairs mid season. I would worry far more that any coaching change made is slow to show results. I agree. I was talking about making changes post season. For now we might clean up some of the nonsensical play calling and regain some focus by rearranging things but not enough to salvage the season. We can afford to replace assistants in the off season and make an impact if someone doesn't step up with money to buy out Mike. Honestly, I don't want to see Mike get fired. He's a brother Cardinal. If he has to go however, he has to go. I agree with all of this. I still want Mike to make some miracle turnaround this year but that's not remotely realistic. If he stays (most likely) then I hope he makes some significant changes to his staff and reevaluate everything top to bottom. Recruiting, strength and conditioning, philosophy on both sides of the ball, play calling, staff hiring, community outreach (by Mike) etc etc. I don't want to see him fired either. He's one of my all time favorite Cardinal QB's and I was excited when he was hired. Still hope he can dig deep and find the winning formula. But, if he needs to go that's just the way it is. His record speaks volumes. (and I also meant changes like a new OC and any other staff AFTER the season) What we can do right now, as Mike said yesterday, is make what we do fit who we have. If he follows through on that we'll at least maybe execute better and generate a little bit of offense. |
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Post by chirprising on Oct 10, 2023 12:39:19 GMT -6
Mike knew going into this season that there were a few things on the line and he still stubbornly refused to make changes that were obvious even to the casual observer. Whatever changes he did make were on the margins and not the kind that signaled a new direction. And because he wouldn't, he lost a lot of this team, some incredibly loyal alumni and quite a few fans. Nobody wants him to go but what are you supposed to do when a guy keeps showing you that he is not going to adjust? In the normal world, most of us know that if you have underachievers on your team, and you hired those people, it's only a matter of time before your boss starts asking you some hard questions and wonders whether you're the right person to be leading the team.
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Post by david75bsu on Oct 10, 2023 15:09:42 GMT -6
I still say they can make impactful and positive changes without firing Mike, but if that does happen and assistants get booted I don't trust Mike to hire the replacements. [br Agree. A modern day, forward thinking OC would be a start. But any changes Mike would make would just lead to him hiring more staff from Western and Eastern ILL….. Exactly what I was going to say, glad I scrolled down to see this comment! |
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Post by david75bsu on Oct 10, 2023 15:18:25 GMT -6
Watched the Toledo preview by Neu. He kept talking about how we started out planning for two all American tight ends over and over again. He knew from prior to the start of the season that he only had one! He should have made the adjustment back then and it should not be a part of the discussion now! The defense is good enough if the offense could produce and it is not! Hatcher is not the guy. He seems to be saving the Cal Kid for next year. Kelly needs to start and they need a complete package for him. It’s getting to late to keep talking about adjusting, you just need to adjust.
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