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Post by dc5525 on Dec 13, 2023 6:44:03 GMT -6
I am sure Boogie will blow thru that $150K (if he hasn't already) before the season is over then what? What team in Europe will want a player that sat on the bench all year? These players are in for a rude awakening when their basketball days are over and need to get a real job.
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Post by JacksonStreetElite on Dec 13, 2023 7:01:07 GMT -6
I am sure Boogie will blow thru that $150K (if he hasn't already) before the season is over then what? What team in Europe will want a player that sat on the bench all year? These players are in for a rude awakening when their basketball days are over and need to get a real job. I’d say having already made $150k he is ahead of most of the other college kids who are in for a rude awakening when their college days are over and they have to get a real job. |
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Post by williamtsherman on Dec 13, 2023 7:10:35 GMT -6
I am sure Boogie will blow thru that $150K (if he hasn't already) before the season is over then what? You're sure eh? |
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Post by 00hmh on Dec 13, 2023 7:41:16 GMT -6
I am sure Boogie will blow thru that $150K (if he hasn't already) before the season is over. Why? This looks like a good decision considering his needs. |
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Post by cardfan on Dec 13, 2023 7:46:45 GMT -6
I wish I had $150K to blow through.
Does bring up a question: Do these guys get paid lump sum, weekly, monthly, etc? Wonder how that works.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Dec 13, 2023 9:23:36 GMT -6
Everyone is missing a very Key point. Sellers the best player only got 50k from UCF. He was also one of the guys receiving NIL already from us. Could we not match or Better 50K We had to know Sparks was bouncing and that his NIL money was opening up.. Did we try and match? Same couple said in Sellers situation being closer to home and Helping his family was a factor so maybe we did make a counter and it did not matter. Brings up another point though How much were we giving here 5 10 15k looks like that is not even a drop in the bucket compared to what some can do for bench players..
Bottom line is we are screwed
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Post by cardfan on Dec 13, 2023 10:01:58 GMT -6
Everyone is missing a very Key point. Sellers the best player only got 50k from UCF. He was also one of the guys receiving NIL already from us. Could we not match or Better 50K We had to know Sparks was bouncing and that his NIL money was opening up.. Did we try and match? Same couple said in Sellers situation being closer to home and Helping his family was a factor so maybe we did make a counter and it did not matter. Brings up another point though How much were we giving here 5 10 15k looks like that is not even a drop in the bucket compared to what some can do for bench players.. Bottom line is we are screwed I would bet we tried to make Sellers a strong offer (for us) and it was never going to matter. Really think he wanted to get back South and be closer to his family and was willing to take "only" 50K to do it. We are screwed until we have an NIL program in place that is competitive in the market. (which will probably happen on the 12th of never) But, Lewis can overcome that with solid portal recruiting by identifying guys just looking for opportunities to prove themselves plus getting high school kids with potential who just aren't ready yet. Which, it looks like we have several of those this year. Coaching ability will be at a premium for us. If Lewis can flat out coach we'll be ok. If he can't he'll fail. |
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Post by rmcalhoun on Dec 13, 2023 10:02:17 GMT -6
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Post by williamtsherman on Dec 13, 2023 10:08:30 GMT -6
Everyone is missing a very Key point. Sellers the best player only got 50k from UCF. He was also one of the guys receiving NIL already from us. Could we not match or Better 50K We had to know Sparks was bouncing and that his NIL money was opening up.. Did we try and match? Same couple said in Sellers situation being closer to home and Helping his family was a factor so maybe we did make a counter and it did not matter. Brings up another point though How much were we giving here 5 10 15k looks like that is not even a drop in the bucket compared to what some can do for bench players.. Bottom line is we are screwed I would bet we tried to make Sellers a strong offer (for us) and it was never going to matter. Really think he wanted to get back South and be closer to his family and was willing to take "only" 50K to do it. We are screwed until we have an NIL program in place that is competitive in the market. (which will probably happen on the 12th of never) But, Lewis can overcome that with solid portal recruiting by identifying guys just looking for opportunities to prove themselves plus getting high school kids with potential who just aren't ready yet. Which, it looks like we have several of those this year. Coaching ability will be at a premium for us. If Lewis can flat out coach we'll be ok. If he can't he'll fail. There is always the chance we will be admitted into Magic Fairy Land with the contending MAC programs where they are protected from NIL and the portal by magic fairy dust. Until then, we can't blame Lewis for anything. |
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Post by rmcalhoun on Dec 13, 2023 10:16:41 GMT -6
Sherm we can Blame Lewis for anything we want but if you do not think not having competitive NIL packages is a problem you have your head buried in the sand just as deep as the cheerleaders.
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Post by cardfan on Dec 13, 2023 10:59:32 GMT -6
I would bet we tried to make Sellers a strong offer (for us) and it was never going to matter. Really think he wanted to get back South and be closer to his family and was willing to take "only" 50K to do it. We are screwed until we have an NIL program in place that is competitive in the market. (which will probably happen on the 12th of never) But, Lewis can overcome that with solid portal recruiting by identifying guys just looking for opportunities to prove themselves plus getting high school kids with potential who just aren't ready yet. Which, it looks like we have several of those this year. Coaching ability will be at a premium for us. If Lewis can flat out coach we'll be ok. If he can't he'll fail. There is always the chance we will be admitted into Magic Fairy Land with the contending MAC programs where they are protected from NIL and the portal by magic fairy dust. Until then, we can't blame Lewis for anything. I straight up said if Lewis can't coach with whatever hand he's dealt at bsu he'll fail. Zero excuses. But what Calhoun is saying IS reality for us. We currently cannot compete in the market. Where we gonna come up with $250K to keep a Sparks? But, it's still on the head coach to figure it out and make what we do have work. Simple as that. I'm betting Lewis has a plan and is working it and I'm betting the new AD is working on a better NIL collective, but yeah, until that happens we DO need a little fairy dust. We've lost potential impact players already because we could not offer them as much as other schools. That's the situation. Lewis will probably end up trying to get funding himself on top of trying to run a basketball program. The school hasn't been very good at it to this point. Donors gave the 3 players who left NIL money. Gave them money and they still left. What do you think that did to the willingness to continue to help fund NIL for basketball? Hint: it kinda killed it. Hard to get enough people interested in funding a collective when they basically get no ROI. |
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Post by cardsfan606 on Dec 13, 2023 17:42:33 GMT -6
Everyone is missing a very Key point. Sellers the best player only got 50k from UCF. He was also one of the guys receiving NIL already from us. Could we not match or Better 50K We had to know Sparks was bouncing and that his NIL money was opening up.. Did we try and match? Same couple said in Sellers situation being closer to home and Helping his family was a factor so maybe we did make a counter and it did not matter. Brings up another point though How much were we giving here 5 10 15k looks like that is not even a drop in the bucket compared to what some can do for bench players.. Bottom line is we are screwed even if we matched their offer, being closer to home and playing in the big 12 is no match |
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Post by cardsfan606 on Dec 13, 2023 17:45:39 GMT -6
There is always the chance we will be admitted into Magic Fairy Land with the contending MAC programs where they are protected from NIL and the portal by magic fairy dust. Until then, we can't blame Lewis for anything. I straight up said if Lewis can't coach with whatever hand he's dealt at bsu he'll fail. Zero excuses. But what Calhoun is saying IS reality for us. We currently cannot compete in the market. Where we gonna come up with $250K to keep a Sparks? But, it's still on the head coach to figure it out and make what we do have work. Simple as that. I'm betting Lewis has a plan and is working it and I'm betting the new AD is working on a better NIL collective, but yeah, until that happens we DO need a little fairy dust. We've lost potential impact players already because we could not offer them as much as other schools. That's the situation. Lewis will probably end up trying to get funding himself on top of trying to run a basketball program. The school hasn't been very good at it to this point. Donors gave the 3 players who left NIL money. Gave them money and they still left. What do you think that did to the willingness to continue to help fund NIL for basketball? Hint: it kinda killed it. Hard to get enough people interested in funding a collective when they basically get no ROI. and the even bigger problem, if they don’t figure it out Lewis will go somewhere that does have it figured out |
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Post by cardfan on Dec 13, 2023 17:54:46 GMT -6
I straight up said if Lewis can't coach with whatever hand he's dealt at bsu he'll fail. Zero excuses. But what Calhoun is saying IS reality for us. We currently cannot compete in the market. Where we gonna come up with $250K to keep a Sparks? But, it's still on the head coach to figure it out and make what we do have work. Simple as that. I'm betting Lewis has a plan and is working it and I'm betting the new AD is working on a better NIL collective, but yeah, until that happens we DO need a little fairy dust. We've lost potential impact players already because we could not offer them as much as other schools. That's the situation. Lewis will probably end up trying to get funding himself on top of trying to run a basketball program. The school hasn't been very good at it to this point. Donors gave the 3 players who left NIL money. Gave them money and they still left. What do you think that did to the willingness to continue to help fund NIL for basketball? Hint: it kinda killed it. Hard to get enough people interested in funding a collective when they basically get no ROI. and the even bigger problem, if they don’t figure it out Lewis will go somewhere that does have it figured out Exactly. I’ve been hearing Lewis is already frustrated with some things at bsu, especially in terms of the lack of a coherent NIL/financial development for basketball. I find that not surprising. We seem to be clueless in key administrative positions. Work on campus long enough, you find that out. |
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Post by steve on Dec 13, 2023 18:04:57 GMT -6
How can ISU Be that advanced than BSU with the NLI? Makes zero sense..
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