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Post by coastalcard on Nov 16, 2023 21:59:11 GMT -6
Sparks played 8 minutes in the IU win over Wright St. 8 minutes was the lowest playing time for the 10 Hoosiers who made an appearance in the game. Sparks had 1 point. It was painful to watch him shoot free throws. He was 1 for 4, making his final attempt. The most real thing the game announcers said about Sparks was: "he's a big body who will give IU 5 more fouls to use against the Purdue C, Edey". It was pretty obvious that IU’s depth of bball coaching prowess have not yet been able to fine tune Sparks’ FT technique |
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Post by realitycheck on Nov 17, 2023 4:52:53 GMT -6
There's a harsh truth to face here. Brooks Hadlin knew it...knew it all too well. No way I'm gonna make it on the outside. I keep looking for ways to violate my transfer so maybe they'll send me back to where things make sense.
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Post by cardfan on Nov 17, 2023 6:44:19 GMT -6
There's a harsh truth to face here. Brooks Hadlin knew it...knew it all too well. No way I'm gonna make it on the outside. I keep looking for ways to violate my transfer so maybe they'll send me back to where things make sense. His world went and got itself in a big damn hurry. |
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Post by yorktowncard on Nov 17, 2023 6:57:31 GMT -6
Sparks played 8 minutes in the IU win over Wright St. 8 minutes was the lowest playing time for the 10 Hoosiers who made an appearance in the game. Sparks had 1 point. It was painful to watch him shoot free throws. He was 1 for 4, making his final attempt. The most real thing the game announcers said about Sparks was: "he's a big body who will give IU 5 more fouls to use against the Purdue C, Edey". It is 95% about money. With the high costs of everything these days, what does a kid do when they get out of college. Say Sparks is getting 100k per year and is at IU for a couple years so $200k. Many kids leave college with $200k of debt, but he will have made $200k. If he’s responsible with it (not sure I would have been at age 20 or 21) it can give him a great springboard to his adult life. Most of these kids that left Ball State don’t have NBA changed and if they do they are very limited at best. I can’t fault these kids for doing what they think is best for them financially. |
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Post by CallingBS on Nov 17, 2023 7:26:18 GMT -6
Sparks played 8 minutes in the IU win over Wright St. 8 minutes was the lowest playing time for the 10 Hoosiers who made an appearance in the game. Sparks had 1 point. It was painful to watch him shoot free throws. He was 1 for 4, making his final attempt. The most real thing the game announcers said about Sparks was: "he's a big body who will give IU 5 more fouls to use against the Purdue C, Edey". It is 95% about money. With the high costs of everything these days, what does a kid do when they get out of college. Say Sparks is getting 100k per year and is at IU for a couple years so $200k. Many kids leave college with $200k of debt, but he will have made $200k. If he’s responsible with it (not sure I would have been at age 20 or 21) it can give him a great springboard to his adult life. Most of these kids that left Ball State don’t have NBA changed and if they do they are very limited at best. I can’t fault these kids for doing what they think is best for them financially. $ today or more $ tomorrow is the bigger issue, IMO. Sparks has all but killed his chances of playing overseas now. At BSU he would've had the exposure and stats to warrant an overseas career. If this was a financial decision, it was a bad one. If it was an emotional decision (he's an IU fanboi), it was still a bad one, but it was his and only his to make. For the life of me, though, I will never understand why a kid worked so hard to elevate his game only to flush it all with this transfer. |
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Post by realitycheck on Nov 17, 2023 7:31:10 GMT -6
Sparks played 8 minutes in the IU win over Wright St. 8 minutes was the lowest playing time for the 10 Hoosiers who made an appearance in the game. Sparks had 1 point. It was painful to watch him shoot free throws. He was 1 for 4, making his final attempt. The most real thing the game announcers said about Sparks was: "he's a big body who will give IU 5 more fouls to use against the Purdue C, Edey". It is 95% about money. With the high costs of everything these days, what does a kid do when they get out of college. Say Sparks is getting 100k per year and is at IU for a couple years so $200k. Many kids leave college with $200k of debt, but he will have made $200k. If he’s responsible with it (not sure I would have been at age 20 or 21) it can give him a great springboard to his adult life. Most of these kids that left Ball State don’t have NBA changed and if they do they are very limited at best. I can’t fault these kids for doing what they think is best for them financially. You’re not wrong but I also think the appeal of playing at the highest level of college sports in front of 15k fans every night is very enticing. The harsh reality for a big man like Sparks is they over recruited him before he ever set foot on campus. On the flip side, an Uber athletic guard like Sellers is far more likely to start or get starter minutes in most P5 programs. There’s still a lot of season to unfold at IU but unless there’s an injury or suspension for another frontline player, Sparks is going to go from 35 minutes and a feature starter role to lots of bench time and virtually no significant role. At Ball State, he gets us to a potential top four spot in Cleveland. At IU he’s an end of the bench body. Foresight is tough when you’re 20. |
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Post by coastalcard on Nov 17, 2023 8:14:12 GMT -6
Money or no money. MAC basketball and football athletes have got to be looking around at games and saying, "this isn't what I had in mind".
MAC officials make it look worse than it already is by requiring the inordinate amount of seats that will never be used.
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Post by CallingBS on Nov 17, 2023 8:22:23 GMT -6
Money or no money. MAC basketball and football athletes have got to looking around at games and saying, "this isn't what I had in mind". MAC officials make it look worse than it already is by requiring the inordinate amount of seats that will never be used. The Miami/ UB game the other night was totally embarrassing. Had to have been less than 1,000 people there, and Miami is 8-2. The MAC, IMO, will be in a dire state of financial affairs very soon. It's already bleak, but it's gonna get a lot worse. This isn't sustainable. |
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Post by williamtsherman on Nov 17, 2023 8:24:51 GMT -6
It is 95% about money. With the high costs of everything these days, what does a kid do when they get out of college. Say Sparks is getting 100k per year and is at IU for a couple years so $200k. Many kids leave college with $200k of debt, but he will have made $200k. If he’s responsible with it (not sure I would have been at age 20 or 21) it can give him a great springboard to his adult life. Most of these kids that left Ball State don’t have NBA changed and if they do they are very limited at best. I can’t fault these kids for doing what they think is best for them financially. $ today or more $ tomorrow is the bigger issue, IMO. Sparks has all but killed his chances of playing overseas now. At BSU he would've had the exposure and stats to warrant an overseas career. If this was a financial decision, it was a bad one. If it was an emotional decision (he's an IU fanboi), it was still a bad one, but it was his and only his to make. For the life of me, though, I will never understand why a kid worked so hard to elevate his game only to flush it all with this transfer. Has Sparks really killed his chances of playing overseas? Has he hurt them at all? Maybe he has but I dont know. It seems you would need to have overseas earnings data for Big10 bench players vs MAC starters to state this with confidence. |
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Post by williamtsherman on Nov 17, 2023 8:29:18 GMT -6
Money or no money. MAC basketball and football athletes have got to looking around at games and saying, "this isn't what I had in mind". MAC officials make it look worse than it already is by requiring the inordinate amount of seats that will never be used. The Miami/ UB game the other night was totally embarrassing. Had to have been less than 1,000 people there, and Miami is 8-2. The MAC, IMO, will be in a dire state of financial affairs very soon. It's already bleak, but it's gonna get a lot worse. This isn't sustainable. The sustainability of MAC sports programs is not dictated by amount of money lost per season. Football has proven that very conclusively. Students can, and have, been milked of money to cover 8-figure losses. |
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Post by dcat on Nov 17, 2023 9:42:09 GMT -6
It is 95% about money. With the high costs of everything these days, what does a kid do when they get out of college. Say Sparks is getting 100k per year and is at IU for a couple years so $200k. Many kids leave college with $200k of debt, but he will have made $200k. If he’s responsible with it (not sure I would have been at age 20 or 21) it can give him a great springboard to his adult life. Most of these kids that left Ball State don’t have NBA changed and if they do they are very limited at best. I can’t fault these kids for doing what they think is best for them financially. $ today or more $ tomorrow is the bigger issue, IMO. Sparks has all but killed his chances of playing overseas now. At BSU he would've had the exposure and stats to warrant an overseas career. If this was a financial decision, it was a bad one. If it was an emotional decision (he's an IU fanboi), it was still a bad one, but it was his and only his to make. For the life of me, though, I will never understand why a kid worked so hard to elevate his game only to flush it all with this transfer. He isn't going to pocket nearly that much. He's going to learn what taxes are real fast. With no deductions, no school expenses, he'll pocket closer to $120k unless NIL has some tax loopholes. You gotta ask if that's worth giving up an overseas career? |
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Post by 00hmh on Nov 17, 2023 10:00:53 GMT -6
$ today or more $ tomorrow is the bigger issue, IMO. Sparks has all but killed his chances of playing overseas now. At BSU he would've had the exposure and stats to warrant an overseas career. If this was a financial decision, it was a bad one. If it was an emotional decision (he's an IU fanboi), it was still a bad one, but it was his and only his to make. For the life of me, though, I will never understand why a kid worked so hard to elevate his game only to flush it all with this transfer. Has Sparks really killed his chances of playing overseas? Has he hurt them at all? Maybe he has but I dont know. It seems you would need to have overseas earnings data for Big10 bench players vs MAC starters to state this with confidence. I doubt this hurts. He has stats from MAC and Woody will have contacts. He'll have a great agent if he wants to play. His issues with pro ball were always going to be development of an outside game, rim protection. Neither was likely to improve playing post in the MAC. If he wants career coaching, teaching, or any career outside BB he'll be ahead on that count with IU contacts. He's lost only the glory and fun. Being All MAC and a legend at BSU. |
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Post by rmcalhoun on Nov 17, 2023 10:02:32 GMT -6
Ive talked talked to Tayler Persons several times over the last few years the last time a couple months ago. He has worked his way up the overseas ladder. Each year moving to a better league better team etc. He has told me he has had multiple NBA teams reach out but all want you to come back and start G league first. He says there is no money in the G league the only contract info I have ever found had him making 78,000 this was a couple contracts ago. Euro seasons are also on average much shorter. Not a bad GiG though
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Post by rmcalhoun on Nov 17, 2023 10:07:44 GMT -6
As far as Sparks if he wants to play overseas there is a league for him somewhere.. There are hundreds of Euro/asia leagues scattered across the world.. Trey went to Australia and was touring their leauges for a while still might be there.
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Post by 00hmh on Nov 17, 2023 10:13:17 GMT -6
Ive talked talked to Tayler Persons several times over the last few years the last time a couple months ago. He has worked his way up the overseas ladder. Each year moving to a better league better team etc. He has told me he has had multiple NBA teams reach out but all want you to come back and start G league first. He says there is no money in the G league the only contract info I have ever found had him making 78,000 this was a couple contracts ago. Euro seasons are also on average much shorter. Not a bad GiG though Persons a solid journeyman pro. Sparks has to develop to do that well or better. His practice and any higher level game experience he gets against good players might be better to do that anyway. It's a pretty short career, but these guys love to play. The salary in Europe a little deceptive. There are perks, including travel, lodging. And as you say it's not as much a grind. Not easy for family though. |
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