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Post by rmcalhoun on Mar 26, 2024 12:13:03 GMT -6
When I talked to Baily and watts they were happy about coming back . They took some pictures with older alum etc.. Jones was all smiles and promised we would ge better Hendrick parente says he loved Lewis. Those are the kids I personally talked to I did speak via message too anderson he simply tesponded no sir So Lewis is deff not hated I also think its ok to speak on this now since its almost over. I asked Lewis and he flat out said we were not good last and will make room on the roster If I ask other coaches the same questions.. You always get well we were close or if a couple plays went the other way etc. Lewis gives no shits and on surface seems very honest.. I even think his cryptic post game comments were sometimes made to get people talking and bring to lite certain issues.... Calculated I guess
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Post by zonebuster on Mar 26, 2024 12:22:33 GMT -6
When I talked to Baily and watts they were happy about coming back . They took some pictures with older alum etc.. Jones was all smiles and promised we would ge better Hendrick parente says he loved Lewis. Those are the kids I personally talked to I did speak via message too anderson he simply tesponded no sir So Lewis is deff not hated I also think its ok to speak on this now since its almost over. I asked Lewis and he flat out said we were not good last and will make room on the roster If I ask other coaches the same questions.. You always get well we were close or if a couple plays went the other way etc. Lewis gives no shits and on surface seems very honest.. I even think his cryptic post game comments were sometimes made to get people talking and bring to lite certain issues.... Calculated I guess Good stuff!! Thanks for sharing!!
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Post by amishalum on Mar 26, 2024 13:29:22 GMT -6
When I talked to Baily and watts they were happy about coming back . They took some pictures with older alum etc.. Jones was all smiles and promised we would ge better Hendrick parente says he loved Lewis. Those are the kids I personally talked to I did speak via message too anderson he simply tesponded no sir So Lewis is deff not hated I also think its ok to speak on this now since its almost over. I asked Lewis and he flat out said we were not good last and will make room on the roster If I ask other coaches the same questions.. You always get well we were close or if a couple plays went the other way etc. Lewis gives no shits and on surface seems very honest.. I even think his cryptic post game comments were sometimes made to get people talking and bring to lite certain issues.... Calculated I guess Good to hear! Just curious if the conversation with Coach Lewis touch on NIL needs?
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Post by rmcalhoun on Mar 26, 2024 14:29:54 GMT -6
I also think its ok to speak on this now since its almost over. I asked Lewis and he flat out said we were not good last and will make room on the roster If I ask other coaches the same questions.. You always get well we were close or if a couple plays went the other way etc. Lewis gives no shits and on surface seems very honest.. I even think his cryptic post game comments were sometimes made to get people talking and bring to lite certain issues.... Calculated I guess Good to hear! Just curious if the conversation with Coach Lewis touch on NIL needs? Ive asked him twice and each time you can tell its not something he wants to discuss much. One time he did say he lost a a recruit due to not enough
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Post by realitycheck on Mar 26, 2024 14:35:51 GMT -6
When I talked to Baily and watts they were happy about coming back . They took some pictures with older alum etc.. Jones was all smiles and promised we would ge better Hendrick parente says he loved Lewis. Those are the kids I personally talked to I did speak via message too anderson he simply tesponded no sir So Lewis is deff not hated I never have thought Lewis was hated by his players. I think he cares about them and they know that, but his intensity and intimidation factor are probably too much for some kids, especially if you're not seeing the rewards of the effort. If we had prevailed in even 3-4 of the games we lost in OT or by a basket then I think we see a different vibe from some players, particularly Anderson. It's not an excuse because we lost those games fair and square. Our record was exactly who we were as a team. Good bones and potential and not enough moxy or chemistry to win close games. Who knows what private conversations happen between Coach and the players. Mike comes across to me as brutally honest but also someone who genuinely wants the best for his players. His job is to win basketball games but primarily it's also to help young men improve and prepare for life off the court eventually. Instead of pouting or turning his back on Sparks last year, he helped him get in the door and signed at IU because it was what the player wanted to pursue despite it not being beneficial to us. Even though rumor had it that Sparks left BSU partially because of the verbal culture and intensity, he must have learned that the grass was not actually greener and Coach Lewis' way may be OK after all. Anderson's departure feels like a combination of $$, opportunity in his last year to be on a contender and the need to leave some demons in his head back in Muncie. His implosion in the waning moments of a couple of our home losses was brutal to watch let alone to experience.
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Post by 00hmh on Mar 26, 2024 15:32:05 GMT -6
Those OT games and other narrow losses often reflected players running out of gas, or making mistakes.
Lewis focusing on mistakes might have been received better than we think. These guys wanted to win, probably suffering some guilt about mistakes in a close loss. Had to know Coach was teaching, not punishing them.
The times in middle of the average game where he pulled them or yelled at them seemed more punitive, weren't appreciated until they learned how harmful the mistakes are, seeing them happen in those losses.
Lewis like his college coach got across that winning is not just making great plays, often more about avoiding mistakes.
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Post by williamtsherman on Mar 26, 2024 15:59:46 GMT -6
Good to hear! Just curious if the conversation with Coach Lewis touch on NIL needs? Ive asked him twice and each time you can tell its not something he wants to discuss much. That sucks, and I don't get it. -NIL is not going away.
-NIL is a huge factor in recruiting -recruiting is the biggest factor in winning basketball games -Lewis is the person most responsible for BSU winning basketball games. I understand the university, and by extension Lewis, cannot "exercise governance" over NIL but maybe he should get over his f-----g bashfulness and talk about it a little. In fact, maybe he should talk about it A LOT. A WHOLE LOT. And loudly. His is supposed to be the leader of the program, and the program needs NIL. Who or what is he waiting on? Who has the attention of potential basketball NIL donors more than the basketball coach? He should be actively promoting the raising of NIL money to the absolute limit that the rules allow. It's hugely disappointing and concerning to hear that he doesn't want to talk about it, even when an interested person asks. I usually prefer to write my own posts rather than cut and paste, but this is a good summary from CBS sports: But the smartest coaches have mostly stopped complaining about NIL deals, at least publicly, and started evolving and adjusting to their new realities. They don't all think it's sensible that somebody averaging 11 points and seven rebounds for a middle-of-the-pack power-conference team is getting hundreds of thousands of dollars. But most of them seem to understand that there's no going back now, and they know that unless they're working off the court to ensure they're competitive in the NIL space, at least relative to their conference foes, it's going to be difficult to turn around and be competitive on the court when things tip off each November.Indeed. It's a time of change and the coaches that just hope NIL will somehow magically go away are going to get steamrolled by those who aggressively get after it. Lewis has a choice to make.
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Post by 00hmh on Mar 26, 2024 16:17:12 GMT -6
Why would anybody think Lewis isn't working off the court addressing NIL with the people he needs to? We haven't had a coach do more with community contact, or work with students more, or use media contacts better.
You aren't hearing him complain about NIL. Not talking off the cuff to a press source like Rob isn't getting the message out to the right people.
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Post by williamtsherman on Mar 26, 2024 17:24:04 GMT -6
Well Rob is a loyal fan of the program and has a big mouth. Why would he NOT be a person to stress the importance of NIL to, in order to help spread the word? As opposed to "you can tell its not something he wants to discuss much." That's 180 degrees from what I want to hear.
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Post by 00hmh on Mar 26, 2024 17:46:00 GMT -6
Well Rob is a loyal fan of the program and has a big mouth. Why would he NOT be a person to stress the importance of NIL to, in order to help spread the word? As opposed to "you can tell its not something he wants to discuss much." That's 180 degrees from what I want to hear. Marginal cost vs marginal benefit. Rob's audience on this forum is pretty aware. Bet he isn't posting on all social media anyway. Rob has value the access he has and make judgment about what he shares. Lewis has a lot of irons in the fire. Recruiting, pushing ticket sales, community relations, and so on. I'm not sure in the middle of recruiting he should want to stress BSU weakness in NIL. More harm than good maybe. This wasn't Rob at a press conference, either, it was Rob, off hand, no mic in his hand. An audience he wanted to or needed to reach? You're making too much of it. Any public communication effort is best when controlled, planned. Pick the venue and fit the message to it. If this was Dick Vitale visiting to do story on BSU, not Rob in his jeans at a non MBB event, he'd put more thought and effort in answering.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Mar 26, 2024 17:48:37 GMT -6
Well Rob is a loyal fan of the program and has a big mouth. Why would he NOT be a person to stress the importance of NIL to, in order to help spread the word? As opposed to "you can tell its not something he wants to discuss much." That's 180 degrees from what I want to hear. None of our coaches seem to want to diacuss it nor does our ad maybe they have been instructed not too I dont know. Maybe he doesnt want to talk about it to me. We dont have in depth conversations I ask a question sometimes he answers sometimes he does not. Were not friends having a beer.
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Post by 00hmh on Mar 26, 2024 17:52:14 GMT -6
Well Rob is a loyal fan of the program and has a big mouth. Why would he NOT be a person to stress the importance of NIL to, in order to help spread the word? As opposed to "you can tell its not something he wants to discuss much." That's 180 degrees from what I want to hear. None of our coaches seem to want to diacuss it nor does our ad maybe they have been instructed not too I dont know. Maybe he doesnt want to talk about it to me. We dont have in depth conversations I ask a question sometimes he answers sometimes he does not. Were not friends having a beer. Or, in this case, a priority PR opportunity. No big deal.
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Post by lmills72 on Mar 26, 2024 18:39:31 GMT -6
No experience running fund-raising campaigns, but from a distance I see very few campaigns where public pleading for cash really has great results.
You have a $10 million campaign and 80% of it comes from like 5 donors. By comparison very little seems to come from the everyday Joes a public cry goes out to. Big money, it seems, is often courted without a lot of fanfare.
Everyone who cares knows NIL is now an issue. Perhaps BSU doesn't want coaches harping on it because it will seem like they're making excuses. Hard to imagine, I know.
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Post by realitycheck on Mar 26, 2024 19:05:27 GMT -6
I think Mike understands now what has to be done and with whom to share it. He’s no dummy and he’s not a wallflower like his predecessor. My larger concern is how does our AD and the Foundation view NIL as a priority. I hope they view it as a massive priority but as we sit in the midst of our largest ever capital campaign, there are lots of people in the University soliciting funds for earmarked programs or projects that have nothing to do with Athletics. Mike needs to be aggressive in the portal and on donor doorsteps as well.
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Post by coastalcard on Mar 26, 2024 19:19:43 GMT -6
[quote author=" rmcalhoun" Were not friends having a beer. [/quote][br Now THERE’S your problem. Lewis is pretty partial to beer. Trust me on that one.
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