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Feb 9, 2024 10:40:14 GMT -6
Post by 00hmh on Feb 9, 2024 10:40:14 GMT -6
I wonder if anyone has asked Letterman, Jim Davis and Oprah Winfrey’s long time boyfriend, etc. I find in a lot of situations no one simply asks! Letterman and other high net worth alums are watched pretty closely. Their interests in BSU projects are sought out, and solicited and there are lots of competing demand for funds. There is also no reason to indicate any of those 3 cases are all that interested in athletics.
Pestering prospective donors with a variety of asks is avoided for obvious reasons. The other issue that can exist is that BSU has its needs and priorities to weigh as well, it is true that fund raising is often aimed at particular projects which have priority over athletics, even when it is conceivable and ask for athletics might be possible. |
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Feb 10, 2024 6:09:15 GMT -6
Post by CardsFB1 on Feb 10, 2024 6:09:15 GMT -6
The G5 player might think along the following lines: This P5 school is willing to pay me $X. So THEY must think I have a pretty good chance to play and contribute, otherwise why would they put out the money? If they're willing to bet on me, why wouldn't I bet on myself? And besides that, I've noticed that money is useful. Who can blame a kid for that sort of sensible reasoning? There isn’t a D1 recruit (P5 or G5) who doesn’t think 1. He will start as a true freshman; and 2. He will someday play in the NFL. Not sure how many are savvy enough to say “I’m better off getting paid in school b/c it’s unlikely I’ll make it in the Show.” So those looking for the most $ will find it at a P4 school - they just may never see the field. I don't blame them for that decision, but chasing NIL $ for the short term gain may not work out the way they want. This transfer portal and NIL is a whole different world to navigate! |
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Feb 10, 2024 11:09:38 GMT -6
Post by sdacardinal on Feb 10, 2024 11:09:38 GMT -6
Manning and Dave did their thing that featured Ball State football players. Maybe down the road DAve would have an interest.Agree not to go to the well too often with Dave he has down so much already. What about Angela Ahrendts Senior VP of retailfor Apple 2014-19 and earlier 2006-14 CEO of Burberry. 1981 BSU grad
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Feb 10, 2024 11:22:45 GMT -6
Post by villagepub on Feb 10, 2024 11:22:45 GMT -6
Manning and Dave did their thing that featured Ball State football players. Maybe down the road DAve would have an interest.Agree not to go to the well too often with Dave he has down so much already. What about Angela Ahrendts Senior VP of retailfor Apple 2014-19 and earlier 2006-14 CEO of Burberry. 1981 BSU grad I think her, and a few others are being tapped by other segments of the university. There is a big capital campaign underway as we speak. |
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Feb 10, 2024 12:20:54 GMT -6
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Post by 00hmh on Feb 10, 2024 12:20:54 GMT -6
Manning and Dave did their thing that featured Ball State football players. Maybe down the road DAve would have an interest.Agree not to go to the well too often with Dave he has down so much already. What about Angela Ahrendts Senior VP of retailfor Apple 2014-19 and earlier 2006-14 CEO of Burberry. 1981 BSU grad I think her, and a few others are being tapped by other segments of the university. There is a big capital campaign underway as we speak. Yes. And, yes. |
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Post by lmills72 on Feb 10, 2024 13:14:17 GMT -6
It's quite an assumption to think that just because someone graduated from Ball State they would have any interest in propping up the athletic program or contributing to it in any way.
We already know that the vast majority of students couldn't care less about athletics when they're on campus, and probably have no relationship to the athletic department.
If they are interested in helping BSU students in any way, it's probably students they might have something in common with, those who are going through what they experienced.
We've been told for years that athletics sets you up to be champions in life. The values of teamwork, hard hard, selflessness, dedication, and all that BS. If that's true there should be plenty of highly successful Ball State athletes out there just dying to give back to the university and the students following in their footsteps.
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Feb 10, 2024 16:54:06 GMT -6
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Post by rmcalhoun on Feb 10, 2024 16:54:06 GMT -6
On the football side ex players do pretty well giving back but many if not most are no different than most of us. Just people with 9-5 jobs we dont have slews of former NFL players
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Feb 10, 2024 17:41:10 GMT -6
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Post by thebsukid on Feb 10, 2024 17:41:10 GMT -6
Maybe if football or basketball were stronger we would get more alumni to contribute to the University NIL. Isn’t it a little the chicken or the egg?
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Feb 10, 2024 20:18:46 GMT -6
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Post by lmills72 on Feb 10, 2024 20:18:46 GMT -6
Maybe if football or basketball were stronger we would get more alumni to contribute to the University NIL. Isn’t it a little the chicken or the egg? In pre-NIL days I would have said yes. Now I'm not so sure. I mean I do think you would get more alumni contributions if the teams were better. I think that's always been the case. I'm not so sure we can get better without NIL money. And that HASN'T always been the case. So now are we in this loop where we can't get better without more NIL and we can't get more NIL unless we're better? |
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Post by 00hmh on Feb 11, 2024 6:53:53 GMT -6
NIL just exacerbates the problems for programs with scarce resources to start with.
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Post by jdawgbsu on Feb 19, 2024 19:20:03 GMT -6
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Feb 19, 2024 19:39:59 GMT -6
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Post by coastalcard on Feb 19, 2024 19:39:59 GMT -6
Jay Bilas should be proud of the result he spent two years using his paid platform to advocate. It’s not the greedy NCAA making less money Jay, it is the fan base who is being asked to provide additional money to those athletes who had so blatantly been taken advantage of. |
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Feb 19, 2024 19:49:44 GMT -6
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Post by coastalcard on Feb 19, 2024 19:49:44 GMT -6
OUCH!!
“Power Five programs, having hit their NCAA-mandated 85 scholarship limit, are now adding players as “walk-ons” with collectives footing the bill for a scholarship through NIL. The NCAA permits at least 30 walk-ons.
One Power Five collective director, in fact, acknowledged this trend, telling Yahoo Sports that they often “layer on top” an extra $50-60,000 to cover a walk-on’s tuition, books and fees.”
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Feb 19, 2024 21:27:15 GMT -6
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Post by rmcalhoun on Feb 19, 2024 21:27:15 GMT -6
OUCH!! “Power Five programs, having hit their NCAA-mandated 85 scholarship limit, are now adding players as “walk-ons” with collectives footing the bill for a scholarship through NIL. The NCAA permits at least 30 walk-ons. One Power Five collective director, in fact, acknowledged this trend, telling Yahoo Sports that they often “layer on top” an extra $50-60,000 to cover a walk-on’s tuition, books and fees.” Thats just fricking crazy |
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Feb 20, 2024 6:31:17 GMT -6
Post by CardsFB1 on Feb 20, 2024 6:31:17 GMT -6
OUCH!! “Power Five programs, having hit their NCAA-mandated 85 scholarship limit, are now adding players as “walk-ons” with collectives footing the bill for a scholarship through NIL. The NCAA permits at least 30 walk-ons. One Power Five collective director, in fact, acknowledged this trend, telling Yahoo Sports that they often “layer on top” an extra $50-60,000 to cover a walk-on’s tuition, books and fees.” I am not surprised, but I doubt those "walk-ons" want to sit on the bench vs. pursuing a starting job in lower P5 or G5 schools. I would rather be a scholarship player vs. "walk-on" regardless of who is paying. Crazy stuff! |
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