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Feb 25, 2024 23:12:55 GMT -6
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Post by rmcalhoun on Feb 25, 2024 23:12:55 GMT -6
We xan hire a new coach every year but unless something changes our backs are against the wall
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Post by bsutrack on Feb 25, 2024 23:30:45 GMT -6
Heres the thing while its valid its still on Lewis to figure it outband find a way to make it work. His job is to Win but with out nil help its not going to matter. The admin has to get things in place on that end. Many schools even some MAC schools the fans/donors are donating to the Nil foundations. I posted the link to the feed the bird foundation nil thingy... How many of you donated to it? We can bitch but we are now part of the problem if we are not donating. It might help if the BSU Administration would invest enough time and energy to keep their website current. If you go to the Feed the Bird Foundation you can still apparently donate to folks like Jarron Coleman in basketball and Brady Hunt in football who aren't with BSU anymore. Nothing says you are serious about something like not updating your website for nearly a year. |
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Post by rmcalhoun on Feb 25, 2024 23:50:09 GMT -6
Lets not forget the admin is not supposed to have anything to do with the running of these foundations. What they can do is advise donors to donate to these foundations. Im not sure feed the bird even exists anymore they took my fifty bucks and flew south. So far though it was the only attempt at one that has been publicly promoted albeit the promotion was two tweets in a week too launch it..
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Feb 26, 2024 0:06:32 GMT -6
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Post by rmcalhoun on Feb 26, 2024 0:06:32 GMT -6
Now it seems as if there is a mystery dude wooing some football players. One being a quarterback not named Kelly and another being a tight end who did return.
Cooper himself told me football had an "nil guy" and that he(cooper) did pretty well with his deal.
Not sure thats going on on the B ball side
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Feb 26, 2024 0:21:54 GMT -6
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Post by rmcalhoun on Feb 26, 2024 0:21:54 GMT -6
Now if you go back to feed the bird and look at the group of announced players. You will notice every football and every basketball except Koziol and jihaad have transfered up. Did they ever get paid? Did they keep the money if they did? Looks like we attempted to keep our stars but failed
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Feb 26, 2024 5:16:49 GMT -6
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Post by 00hmh on Feb 26, 2024 5:16:49 GMT -6
This adds another level of uncertainty with every recruit.
The coach sells the kid, he's ready to commit. Then money is considered which the coach doesn't control.
Another coach with a losing pitch makes the deal, because of money he doesn't control...
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Post by bsu1 on Feb 26, 2024 6:31:09 GMT -6
But who wants to play for a coach that is in your face screamer criticizing every mistake? The players are physically and emotionally beat down.
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Post by universityjim on Feb 26, 2024 7:56:03 GMT -6
Now it seems as if there is a mystery dude wooing some football players. One being a quarterback not named Kelly and another being a tight end who did return. Cooper himself told me football had an "nil guy" and that he(cooper) did pretty well with his deal. Not sure thats going on on the B ball side That goes along with info I have been given. If what I was told is true about who that NIL guy is, his son is no longer with the program and neither is he. |
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Post by comet on Feb 26, 2024 8:03:29 GMT -6
I would simply say the bb house is on fire and the cupboard is bare!! Say what you want about Whit and a lot of it would be true but fact is Whits staff recruited better than Lewis and staff to date! It actually hurts to say that but it’s absolutely true! As the Head Coach It’s good to have fire in the belly and to show your players you got there back but did you see the chemistry between the players and Lewis as well as the Coaching Staff…..wow! I don’t think I’ve seen worse in decades with the exception of Thompson. No. No. No. Lewis has really only had ONE recruiting class and is operating in an atmosphere that is TOTALLY different than Whitford ever experienced. You can not draw a conclusion that Whitford is/was a better recruiter. You can ONLY compare Lewis, or anyone else, to coaches operating in today’s situation. It’s an entirely new world and how quickly coaches (primarily mid majors) adapt to the new circumstances will determine their short and long term success. Totally agree and well put. |
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Post by 00hmh on Feb 26, 2024 8:13:36 GMT -6
But who wants to play for a coach that is in your face screamer criticizing every mistake? The players are physically and emotionally beat down. Yeah, it's just not right a coach wants you to execute the play he drew up in the huddle. Do what you practice every day. Boys, boys, please do better. It's OK. Just another game lost, like we did the last, and talked about all week... He'd be dead wrong if he wasn't teaching well and preparing them, and if he never gives praise when due. I don't believe that. Can he calm down a notch? Probably a good idea, but I'd want that more in practice if it's preventing teaching. In the end, granted you may be right about what the players want, but do we want that player? |
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Post by cardfan on Feb 26, 2024 8:27:36 GMT -6
No. No. No. Lewis has really only had ONE recruiting class and is operating in an atmosphere that is TOTALLY different than Whitford ever experienced. You can not draw a conclusion that Whitford is/was a better recruiter. You can ONLY compare Lewis, or anyone else, to coaches operating in today’s situation. It’s an entirely new world and how quickly coaches (primarily mid majors) adapt to the new circumstances will determine their short and long term success. Totally agree and well put. Keep this dynamic in mind as well-- players now have leverage over coaches. They don't have to listen anymore. They can just....leave. Easily. So, Lewis can coach his ass off but if the players don't like it they'll just transfer out. Like we saw after last year. Maybe Lewis could tone it down a little, but then he wouldn't be who he is. I don't want him to be fake and I don't want him or any coach kissing players asses just because a kid could get butt hurt and just bail out. From everything we can tell, Lewis IS a hard ass and gets on his players AND staff because he has high expectations and he's an intense competitor. I mean, the dude went back at Bob Knight. During a game. We went from a totally dispassionate coach who was like a zombie on the sideline and his teams often played that way to a guy who is about ready to bite the head off a pigeon. We wanted that, didn't we? We wanted a passionate coach. Well, we got one. The trick for him will be to find that sweet spot where he can be demanding and have high expectations but not be off putting. Cannot worry about soft kids not being able to handle hard coaching. (and who don't understand coaches who just want to get the maximum out of a player) The harder trick is recruiting kids he knows can handle it and WANT to be coached that way. Want to be driven and pushed to be their best at whatever they do. Lewis often talks about teaching those guys about life. Life ain't fair. Adapt and adjust. Deal with it. Overcome. (sounds like the Marines) Bottom line, the best coaches find a way to adjust to the environment, to what they have and how each roster needs to be coached. Finding guys who are on board and are willing to dig deep are the ones who'll play well for a coach like Lewis because they desperately want to win. We'll know soon enough if Lewis can do that. |
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Post by cardfan on Feb 26, 2024 8:28:32 GMT -6
Now it seems as if there is a mystery dude wooing some football players. One being a quarterback not named Kelly and another being a tight end who did return. Cooper himself told me football had an "nil guy" and that he(cooper) did pretty well with his deal. Not sure thats going on on the B ball side That goes along with info I have been given. If what I was told is true about who that NIL guy is, his son is no longer with the program and neither is he. Does that mean the NIL left with him? |
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Feb 26, 2024 8:35:30 GMT -6
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Post by amishalum on Feb 26, 2024 8:35:30 GMT -6
Lets not forget the admin is not supposed to have anything to do with the running of these foundations. What they can do is advise donors to donate to these foundations. Im not sure feed the bird even exists anymore they took my fifty bucks and flew south. So far though it was the only attempt at one that has been publicly promoted albeit the promotion was two tweets in a week too launch it.. Again do we know or have heard whispers of, if either the AD or Lewis are encouraging donors to contribute to an NIL? Someone mentioned in a post earlier in the season that Indiana State’s collective was actively and publicly soliciting donations. Crossroads Of Champions is the name of their collective. Based on their official X feed they were able to secure a bribe, excuse me, a car, for at least one of their players twitter.com/xroadchamps |
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Feb 26, 2024 8:51:08 GMT -6
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Post by thebsukid on Feb 26, 2024 8:51:08 GMT -6
BSU 1 hit I believe on the core problem which is the approach of the Coach!! I have worked in the corporate business world for let’s just say a lot of years; my very best leaders were encouraging, motivating, a teacher, a mentor, listener, approachable, knowledgeable, etc. My very worst boss was in your face, loud, obnoxious, his way only, condescending, etc. I know factually we didn’t lose are best 4 players simply due to money. Say whatever you want but it’s not true. We lost them in large part because they were treated like my worst boss treated me and my business teammates. When you lose your best 4 players and recruit with lesser talent you are not a good recruiter in my view. Look at our players body language and look at our assistant coaches faces. it’s pretty apparent in my opinion. Had we retained Sparks, Sellers, Boogie and Bum we certainly would have been in the hunt!! Remember how most of us including me were down on Bum; look at his stats the last year under Whit and look at his stats this year at Niagara. And then look at his stats last season at Ball State. Could it have been that Bum was not led or motivated properly? Was he afraid or hesitant to take the open shot? Did he have a reason he lost confidence? www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4593397/luke-bumbalough |
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Post by universityjim on Feb 26, 2024 9:33:02 GMT -6
Totally agree and well put. Keep this dynamic in mind as well-- players now have leverage over coaches. They don't have to listen anymore. They can just....leave. Easily. So, Lewis can coach his ass off but if the players don't like it they'll just transfer out. Like we saw after last year. Maybe Lewis could tone it down a little, but then he wouldn't be who he is. I don't want him to be fake and I don't want him or any coach kissing players asses just because a kid could get butt hurt and just bail out. From everything we can tell, Lewis IS a hard ass and gets on his players AND staff because he has high expectations and he's an intense competitor. I mean, the dude went back at Bob Knight. During a game. We went from a totally dispassionate coach who was like a zombie on the sideline and his teams often played that way to a guy who is about ready to bite the head off a pigeon. We wanted that, didn't we? We wanted a passionate coach. Well, we got one. The trick for him will be to find that sweet spot where he can be demanding and have high expectations but not be off putting. Cannot worry about soft kids not being able to handle hard coaching. (and who don't understand coaches who just want to get the maximum out of a player) The harder trick is recruiting kids he knows can handle it and WANT to be coached that way. Want to be driven and pushed to be their best at whatever they do. Lewis often talks about teaching those guys about life. Life ain't fair. Adapt and adjust. Deal with it. Overcome. (sounds like the Marines) Bottom line, the best coaches find a way to adjust to the environment, to what they have and how each roster needs to be coached. Finding guys who are on board and are willing to dig deep are the ones who'll play well for a coach like Lewis because they desperately want to win. We'll know soon enough if Lewis can do that. There's a difference between being fake and purposefully adapting to better suit the situation. In what environment is getting in someone's face and screaming your head off at them acceptable? Especially in public. I think in most situations if you did that to someone you'd be fired pretty quickly. What makes it acceptable for a coach to create a hostile intimidating environment for the players to work in? Because it happened with other coaches in the past? If who you are doesn't fit success in your job then you're in the wrong job. He needs to purge all this immature bullshit. I believe he has a lot to offer and it would be just stupid to let that derail him. |
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