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Post by thebsukid on Feb 1, 2016 14:35:04 GMT -6
Whats the BET General?
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Post by rmcalhoun on Feb 1, 2016 14:43:22 GMT -6
What happens if we lose lets say 7 of the next 10. Im looking at the schedule and although I think its unlikely I have not convinced myself it will not happen
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Post by rmcalhoun on Feb 1, 2016 14:47:21 GMT -6
If we go from losing 17 in a row, and having the clearly worst team in the MAC last year to winning 18 or 19 games this year and get into the middle of the pack, and that is not progress in your book, maybe you need to check Webster's and proof read that book. Can't think of anyone here who doesn't share the same long term idea about what a successful program would be expected to do, we all want a better than average team. However. The standard you set would put us, this year, in the top 4 teams in the conference. We are going toward a goal. That is what progress means, not that we are there already. Lets say playing for a mac championship is a goal how long do we give a coach to achieve this goal
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Post by cardfan on Feb 1, 2016 15:03:20 GMT -6
What happens if we lose lets say 7 of the next 10. Im looking at the schedule and although I think its unlikely I have not convinced myself it will not happen The way we play this is not entirely unlikely. Water finds its level so we'll see just what our level is.
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Post by BSU Card Fan in AZ on Feb 1, 2016 15:45:05 GMT -6
"Lets say playing for a mac championship is a goal how long do we give a coach to achieve this goal"
Playing for or winning it?
A very worthy goal that all teams have but only a handful achieve. A lot of firings along the way I assume.
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Post by cardfan on Feb 1, 2016 15:49:03 GMT -6
"Lets say playing for a mac championship is a goal how long do we give a coach to achieve this goal" Playing for or winning it? A very worthy goal that all teams have but only a handful achieve. A lot of firings along the way I assume. At least playing for it. Been eons since we've even competed for a championship, let alone winning one.
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Post by 00hmh on Feb 1, 2016 15:50:13 GMT -6
What happens if we lose lets say 7 of the next 10. Im looking at the schedule and although I think its unlikely I have not convinced myself it will not happen As even as the teams in the MAC are this year, it is possible. When I look at the away games we have 3 where we are long shots to start with, there are two that are inside of a 3 point basket. Could easily go either way. At home we have a little margin. Very likely we end up losing a game at home we should win, and winning a game on the road. Here is a monte carlo simulation: Odds for each possible season record here.About a 20% chance of only 3 wins or worse happening. OTOH there is about the same chance we win 7 of 10 or more.
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Post by williamtsherman on Feb 1, 2016 15:56:47 GMT -6
First let me ask you this: do you have any knowledge of any big players we may be recruiting. Because the ONLY possible way we finish in the top 100 is if we pull in a legitimate big who can contribute right away. Since I personally have basically zero vision into our recruiting activities, I don't want to lose a bet to someone with inside knowledge. I'm extremely tight with money and have never even bought a single lottery ticket in my lifetime...and will never.
Of course, I know about the Simon kid, but having researched him a little, he would certainly NOT cause me to cancel the bet.
You can make the stake any amount or anything you would be able to spare.
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Post by BSU Card Fan in AZ on Feb 1, 2016 16:06:56 GMT -6
Based on prior posts, it appears we were after some quality bigs earlier but lost them to more "successful" programs with a history of recruiting bigs and winning. Personally I think we will have to win to start getting the attention of quality bigs. So, we need the bigs to win, but are having trouble getting them because we don't have a history of winning!
I think we are making progress and will get this done, but unfortunately not in this next class.
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Post by 00hmh on Feb 1, 2016 16:19:34 GMT -6
Lets say playing for a mac championship is a goal how long do we give a coach to achieve this goal If you mean MAC tourney championship game, that is very hard to say. The very best team does usually win the tourney, does get to the title game. But not always, and often there are several teams good enough to play in the game, and who could win. Actually getting to that game becomes a bit of a crap shoot. When we are in that situation where we are good enough, I am pretty happy. If we were a good team and somehow had bad luck and were the victim of an upset I would not be happy, but think I'd want him back! When we are going to be there that year and the next and usually be a contender, then that's when I am very happy with the coach. of course then he is moving on to another job...
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Post by thebsukid on Feb 1, 2016 16:26:30 GMT -6
How about we bet one item from the BSU bookstore under $40? That's a fun and gentlemanly bet.
I have no current info other than what's already been reported. I am hoping a really good JUCO sees a good base of players and the ability to push Moses to start right away.
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Post by 00hmh on Feb 1, 2016 16:30:24 GMT -6
First let me ask you this: do you have any knowledge of any big players we may be recruiting. Because the ONLY possible way we finish in the top 100 is if we pull in a legitimate big who can contribute right away.
I am not so sure. ONLY is just a little bit strong. We could get there without that really good big man being added. For example, add a Bonzi Wells to this group and we are going to be there. Have Teague and Moses BOTH meet our wildest expectations, we will get there. Outside chance we get there with a very middling quality big man who provides depth. All those are possibilities but I think your money is safe on this bet because it's a lot of improvement to get that high. And, I do agree the most likely path is a reasonably high quality big man would come in to join what we have, somebody better than Bo, out of the box. What I think we can do is get into that top 3 or 4 teams in the MAC. That's a much easier thing to do. Let's say top 125-140 could do that. That is not a sure thing, nothing is in BSU basketball, but I'd sure be surprised if we're not there on Whitford's watch, probably next year, AND still be improving.
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Post by 00hmh on Feb 1, 2016 16:32:20 GMT -6
How about we bet one item from the BSU bookstore under $40? That's a fun and gentlemanly bet. I have no current info other than what's already been reported. I am hoping a really good JUCO sees a good base of players and the ability to push Moses to start right away. You are going to lose this bet, if Whit doesn't pull a rabbit out of the hat. Should have stuck with contending for the MAC championship. Top 3 or 4 in the MAC is on the horizon with modest good fortune.
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Post by proctorp on Feb 1, 2016 16:41:15 GMT -6
Looking at our history of MAC play in the month of February lends me to think that ALL of you are nuts to bet on our program as is.
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Post by lmills72 on Feb 1, 2016 17:25:51 GMT -6
Who cares about the MAC championship.
All we gotta do is win 3-4 more regular season games and we're sure to get an invite to the CBI or CBT or CIA or CBGB or whatever Pick-An-Alphabet combination tournament you can think of.
Postseason, baby.
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