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Post by williamtsherman on Apr 26, 2018 18:41:45 GMT -6
Browns go with mayfield and ward?!? Every mock I ever saw can now be flushed down the toilet. I love the draft
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Post by williamtsherman on Apr 26, 2018 18:53:03 GMT -6
Better strike gold on the 2nd round picks because two interior o lineman first round in three years is a great way to ensure you have no playmakers
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Post by williamtsherman on Apr 26, 2018 18:58:41 GMT -6
Can't believe there weren't great trade back opportunities with Rosen and Allen still available
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Post by williamtsherman on Apr 26, 2018 19:03:39 GMT -6
Let me just tell you one thing. No opposing coach ever lost one millisecond of sleep worrying about game planning against an OG
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Post by williamtsherman on Apr 27, 2018 11:49:41 GMT -6
I guess if you think that stopping the opponent's 3rd or 4th most dangerous pass rushing threat is the key to winning in the NFL, then you will like the Nelson pick.
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Post by 00hmh on Apr 27, 2018 12:27:43 GMT -6
Let me just tell you one thing. No opposing coach ever lost one millisecond of sleep worrying about game planning against an OG No, but opposing coaches do worry about stopping the other teams offense. Until the Colts shore up their line they won't be able to cause anybody to worry about that. Most of the commentary agrees with you that drafting a guard isn't very exciting news, but they traded back to get more instant starters on a team that was pretty bad, and I am not sure they missed out on anybody really exciting. Their alternatives were to trade down again or perhaps pickup one of several good MLB who they could have used. The LB choice probably is more exciting, you hear their name on the PA after a tackle, never hear the G mentioned...but while I don't know who you favored with this pick, the new GM seems to have a plan to rebuild and this position was one they needed to address. The Colts have come out of the first round with a lot of players we wish we could forget, and if this guy is a regular all-pro as most observers predict, maybe it won't be so bad! |
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Post by 00hmh on Apr 27, 2018 12:29:09 GMT -6
I guess if you think that stopping the opponent's 3rd or 4th most dangerous pass rushing threat is the key to winning in the NFL, then you will like the Nelson pick. Knocking people on their ass which seems to be this guys strong point is surely a key to winning. |
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Post by gocardsgo on Apr 27, 2018 15:43:39 GMT -6
Can't believe there weren't great trade back opportunities with Rosen and Allen still available My guess is the Colts wanted both of Buffalo's first round picks, and since it was known league-wide that the Colts wouldn't be taking a QB, there was no threat of Buffalo's target not being there at pick 7, so they made a trade with Tampa who was likely asking for less. |
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Post by williamtsherman on Apr 27, 2018 17:42:27 GMT -6
When a player at an impact position makes a big play, it means a touchdown or a turnover or a drive wrecking loss of yardage. When an OG makes a big play it means the opponents 4th best pass rusher gets knocked down.
Watch nelsons "highlight" videos. They are largely full of inconsequential plays for ND. Now watch a highlight video of a player at an impact position. The difference is night and day
By the way. After reading some scouting reports I now know why Nelson is not a tackle. He "struggles with speed". In other words the colts got an o lineman who has to be hidden at one of the less demanding positions due to a critical weakness...with the 6th pick in the draft
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Post by 00hmh on Apr 28, 2018 8:49:49 GMT -6
If you didn't like the Colts first pick, you really won't like the second OG they took in Rd 2.
The "experts" seem to agree more with you on that choice, but if the Colts are tired of being pushed around on the line, they are improving on that count.
I think the logic is that people who can make big plays are going to have the chance to do that. With the current cast of guys they have, the explosive players available in the draft would not have the room to do that.
My guess is that the Colts get an A for Nelson, a C+ for the subsequent picks. But initial reactions seem to be that the experts see the logic of the picks and are saying there were better choices to accomplish the goal. Colts coaches including their resident pass rush master seem to have preferred these guys, and this is a new group of coaches mostly, not the group of clowns previously in the building.
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Post by williamtsherman on Apr 28, 2018 9:05:56 GMT -6
Best case scenario would be that the Colts develop an offensive line that is the consensus best in the league - like the Dallas Cowboys have had in recent years. And we all know the dominance that led the Cowboys to. Let's see....they've had one playoff win since 2009. They are the James Whitford of the NFL.
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Post by williamtsherman on Apr 28, 2018 17:26:17 GMT -6
Matthew Adams may be a great 7th round pick up, and maybe I'm completely old-fashioned, but I am totally against self abuse during football games.
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Post by thebsukid on Apr 28, 2018 19:19:10 GMT -6
Most analysts believe Indy did a masterful job and even signed Barrett which is a pretty good player underrated.
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Post by TakeMeBackto2008 on Apr 28, 2018 19:20:21 GMT -6
I really wanted Barkley, but I'm ok with the Nelson pick. The Colts' offensive lines have been the worst in football the past three years, and I'm tired of watching them get pushed backward like they aren't even there. I remember how excited I was the year the Colts signed Andre Johnson and Frank Gore. Their presence was mitigated by linemen who were regularly on their butts before Luck could even finish his drop-back.
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Post by thebsukid on Apr 28, 2018 19:29:51 GMT -6
Bleacher Report: The 2 Best Drafts Through 3 Rounds The Indianapolis Colts came into the 2018 draft with a clear plan, and they have executed it to perfection. General manager Chris Ballard has restocked the trenches by picking up two fantastic guards (Quenton Nelson and Braden Smith) and taking two promising defensive linemen in Kemoko Turay and Tyquan Lewis. South Carolina State linebacker Darius Leonard rounded out the Colts' top five, and he should help a defense that allowed 25.3 points per game last year, which ranked third-worst in the NFL. The Colts still have four more picks, and it will be interesting to see which route they take Saturday. Presumably, they will be in the market for a running back and/or wide receiver with Frank Gore and Donte Moncrief heading to the Miami Dolphins and Jacksonville Jaguars, respectively. They could also continue to fortify the front seven, perhaps with another linebacker. New York Post nypost.com/2018/04/28/the-grades-are-in-how-all-32-teams-fared-in-nfl-draft/ |
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