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Post by cardfan on Apr 28, 2018 20:30:58 GMT -6
Most analysts believe Indy did a masterful job and even signed Barrett which is a pretty good player underrated. Barrett is getting a tryout. Hasn’t been signed. |
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Post by williamtsherman on Apr 29, 2018 6:37:07 GMT -6
I guess if you are uncomfortable trying to think things through for yourself, based on some common sense concepts, then I could also link you to a number of "experts" that give the Colts low grades.
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Post by 00hmh on Apr 29, 2018 7:20:42 GMT -6
The one thing that is the best common sense assumption is that none of these media "experts" know all that much. The coaches and GMs of these teams have a lot of information not available to us or to the media experts. But the fun for fans is that, like college recruiting, there is a gamble. Especially with the top draft choices.
Colts were in a sort of "no lose" situation. They were so bad across the board that adding good players had to improve the team.
The level of talent drops off considerably beyond the first two rounds where a great number of the choices become starters fairly early in their careers. With 4 picks in the first two rounds, whatever common sense assumptions made, the players chosen improve this team.
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Post by thebsukid on Apr 29, 2018 13:45:38 GMT -6
So General, I can think for myself as you take a swipe at me but I believe Colts new Coaching staff and management know a bit more than you or me on what they need and drafting
Now you can take exception to this if you like.
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Post by williamtsherman on Apr 29, 2018 16:08:46 GMT -6
And by a remarkable coincidence, the colt's front office rates the colt's draft as an A+. Case closed, I guess.
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Post by thebsukid on Apr 29, 2018 18:17:49 GMT -6
Not my point at all...
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Post by BSU Card Fan in AZ on Apr 30, 2018 7:18:58 GMT -6
I thought they did a decent job this time in addressing the most pressing needs. Can’t get everything. Time will tell of course. But I liked their later round picks as well.
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Post by williamtsherman on Apr 30, 2018 10:56:11 GMT -6
The true value of a draft is usually not truly evident until a couple seasons go by. I attach zero seriousness to the various draft expert grades give out. How often do you ever see any of these draft experts comparing their pre-draft player evals to the eventual NFL track record of the players? Basically never. I'm sure this is because the results are generally embarrassing to the "experts".
The colts spent their best draft capital to shore up what is quite possibly the least important of all starting offense/defense positions. If OG is not the very least important position, then surely it is in the running along with a couple other positions. The draft could salvage itself if some of the players chosen in later rounds at playmaking positions turn out to be steals. Of course it would have been preferable to used the highest draft capital to increase the odds of getting good players at impact positions...but that didn't happen. |
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Post by thebsukid on Apr 30, 2018 13:39:53 GMT -6
Fair enough on the draft reports, however, when your franchise get knocked down or sacked more than he is standing upright and does not play all last season if you think he is still that man you'd better find a way to protect him....thats exactly what the Colts have attempted to do. I agree and believe they also got some good picks to rush off the edge and a potential breakthrough running back and or Wide receiver.
Only time will tell...sure hope you are wrong and my assessment and the Colts is correct.
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Post by williamtsherman on Apr 30, 2018 14:03:04 GMT -6
First number = How many Colts QB sacks have been the result of poor play by the two guards?
Second number = how many Colts QB sacks were the result of the QB holding the ball too long due to trying to make a play or bad judgement + poor play by the tackles + the colts downfield throwing scheme + poor schemes game planning by bad coaches + significantly greater than average injury rate on the O line.
I think you will find that the second number dwarfs the first number, and burning top draft picks on OG's does nothing to help the second number.
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Post by 00hmh on Apr 30, 2018 15:03:15 GMT -6
Can't be that much of a disaster. Consensus was he was a boring choice, but a good one.
Who was your pick, anyway?
Your logic of high position value suggests a QB, it's highest value. Not what Colts need, though, they hope.
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Post by gocardsgo on Apr 30, 2018 15:04:00 GMT -6
First number = How many Colts QB sacks have been the result of poor play by the two guards?
Second number = how many Colts QB sacks were the result of the QB holding the ball too long due to trying to make a play or bad judgement + poor play by the tackles + the colts downfield throwing scheme + poor schemes game planning by bad coaches + significantly greater than average injury rate on the O line.
I think you will find that the second number dwarfs the first number, and burning top draft picks on OG's does nothing to help the second number.
I'm no math expert, but I'm pretty sure the more variables you put in an equation the greater the likelihood of generating a large number. |
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Post by thebsukid on Apr 30, 2018 15:09:21 GMT -6
Many thought our first pick was on their board as a top 3 pick...we agree to disagree...still say that Ballard, the new Head Coach and Assistants have a much better plan than I do...maybe not you General?
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Post by williamtsherman on Apr 30, 2018 18:54:03 GMT -6
You just entered into a 63 million way tie for Stupidiest Post Ever on a Sports Message Board You are currently tied with the other 62,999,999 guys who have come on a forum and made the same basic post
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Post by thebsukid on Apr 30, 2018 20:37:14 GMT -6
You say stupid...I say maybe your simply to HIGH on your opinion.
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