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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2018 17:20:22 GMT -6
It's my inclination not to reach any conclusions until the matter has been completely adjudicated. He is innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, which requires more than just the report of an eye witness. Until that eye witness withstands a competent cross examination under oath their statement is worth didly. This is never going to go to trial. He'll plea bargain and accept some kind of offer from the prosecution. |
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Post by JacksonStreetElite on Jan 8, 2018 18:16:47 GMT -6
It's my inclination not to reach any conclusions until the matter has been completely adjudicated. He is innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, which requires more than just the report of an eye witness. Until that eye witness withstands a competent cross examination under oath their statement is worth didly. This is never going to go to trial. He'll plea bargain and accept some kind of offer from the prosecution. Almost certainly. |
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Post by JacksonStreetElite on Jan 8, 2018 18:21:15 GMT -6
The bleeding girl is kinda compelling evidence too .... EDITED: He is innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, which requires more than just the report of an eye witness and a victim. Until that eye witness and the victim withstand a competent cross examination under oath their statements and blood are worth didly. Better? EDIT: and more to my point, you don't know how compelling her evidence is. That's to be determined by the finder of fact. She could be a total psycho, maybe she was high, maybe she's totally abrasive and would come off terribly to the finder of fact. Maybe it's compelling, maybe it's not, that's why you should treat him as innocent until it is completely adjudicated (someone who has actually been presented all of the facts makes a judgment after due deliberation or he pleads). |
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Post by rmcalhoun on Jan 8, 2018 18:49:24 GMT -6
The bleeding girl is kinda compelling evidence too .... EDITED: He is innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, which requires more than just the report of an eye witness and a victim. Until that eye witness and the victim withstand a competent cross examination under oath their statements and blood are worth didly. Better? EDIT: and more to my point, you don't know how compelling her evidence is. That's to be determined by the finder of fact. She could be a total psycho, maybe she was high, maybe she's totally abrasive and would come off terribly to the finder of fact. Maybe it's compelling, maybe it's not, that's why you should treat him as innocent until it is completely adjudicated (someone who has actually been presented all of the facts makes a judgment after due deliberation or he pleads). Everything you say is right by the law and in theory. Things might change a bit and it will never go to court but he is done its only a matter of when. |
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Post by rmcalhoun on Jan 8, 2018 22:29:07 GMT -6
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First, Jontrell Walker did not hit me. The information that is being given is highly inaccurate that is including the "articles" in the @thestarpress, @ballstatedaily @indystar @wthrcom. Although he is on the basketball team what happened between us is between nobody but us.
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Jontrell has one of the biggest hearts & purest souls I have ever came across, so please do not believe the things that are being said about him from anyone who was not there which was me and him and me and him only. I could not sit here & watch you people slander this mans name
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Post by 00hmh on Jan 8, 2018 23:27:01 GMT -6
You will recall I mentioned a problem with resolving domestic disputes with criminal prosecution...
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Post by cardfan on Jan 9, 2018 4:18:22 GMT -6
Yep it’s always difficult when the victim disputes the events, even in the face of physical evidence and witnesses. (Bleeding from the head, face etc, victim statements made to the police at the time, eyewitnesses, etc).
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2018 5:45:13 GMT -6
Taj 🌙 @_TaJanaeA Following Following @_TaJanaeA More First, Jontrell Walker did not hit me. The information that is being given is highly inaccurate that is including the "articles" in the @thestarpress, @ballstatedaily @indystar @wthrcom. Although he is on the basketball team what happened between us is between nobody but us. Taj 🌙 @_TaJanaeA 7m7 minutes ago More Jontrell has one of the biggest hearts & purest souls I have ever came across, so please do not believe the things that are being said about him from anyone who was not there which was me and him and me and him only. I could not sit here & watch you people slander this mans name Well, then. Case closed. Nothing more to see here. |
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Post by cardfan on Jan 9, 2018 5:47:45 GMT -6
That he bashed my head on the ground us between us and nobody else.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2018 6:03:30 GMT -6
It's also possible Jontrell's claim she brandished a knife may also be true, if that's the case, it may have suddenly become clear to her that she is facing charges as well.
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Post by bsutrack on Jan 9, 2018 7:02:54 GMT -6
Sounding more like the Ray Rice incident with every unfolding detail.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Jan 9, 2018 9:31:08 GMT -6
It's also possible Jontrell's claim she brandished a knife may also be true, if that's the case, it may have suddenly become clear to her that she is facing charges as well. Where did you hear this knife claim |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2018 9:37:26 GMT -6
It's also possible Jontrell's claim she brandished a knife may also be true, if that's the case, it may have suddenly become clear to her that she is facing charges as well. Where did you hear this knife claim "He also said the woman at some point had a knife. Investigators did not find a knife in the apartment but did find a broken pair of glasses." It was in one of the original Star Press articles. Who knows if it is true of not ? |
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Post by rmcalhoun on Jan 9, 2018 10:06:18 GMT -6
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Post by cardfan on Jan 9, 2018 10:11:23 GMT -6
No, it's poorly written by the DN. SHE was in the car when the police got there and her statement indicated Walker beat her head on the ground. The uber driver WAS going to transport her, she was the only one in the car. Walker didn't beat her in the car. The driver was stating the girl who was in the car at the time the police arrived was the victim, not that Walker was also in the car.
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