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Post by stlchirp on Aug 16, 2018 20:16:30 GMT -6
About time. The damage is done though..this should have never gotten this far. Im guessing there was a bigger outcry than many of you on here are willing to accept.
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Post by JacksonStreetElite on Aug 17, 2018 9:23:33 GMT -6
About time. The damage is done though..this should have never gotten this far. Im guessing there was a bigger outcry than many of you on here are willing to accept. The size of the outcry is irrelevant if the outcry demands something wrong. That's where having guts comes in. |
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Post by rmcalhoun on Aug 17, 2018 12:14:57 GMT -6
Like I said before I did not really care whether we changed the name or not.. I just think the whole thing is overblown
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Post by williamtsherman on Aug 17, 2018 12:59:49 GMT -6
Let's contrast this whole ridiculous thing to the outcry and the university's reaction to a previous notable example of actual racism. It was revealed by Jason Whitlock and Petyon Stovall that Ronnie Thompson was preaching racial hatred to the student athletes under his supervision at BSU. Stovall said that Thompson would often and out of nowhere explain to them how they should disdain and distrust people of other skin color. This was about 10,000 times worse than anything Schnatter is accused of.
Remember the huge deal about that? The outcry? How much Thompson was reviled?
Of course there wasn't any huge deal....there was no deal at all. The media wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole and the university acted like it never happened. They instead paid off Thompson with a ton of money.
Nobody really cares about racism and racial hatred. That's a charade. Some people are hysterically committed towards a political agenda and punishing deviation from the establishment dogma on racial matters....but they don't give a flying fuck about racism and racial hatred. In fact, they often do their best to promote them. |
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Post by reevo on Aug 17, 2018 13:29:40 GMT -6
Let's contrast this whole ridiculous thing to the outcry and the university's reaction to a previous notable example of actual racism. It was revealed by Jason Whitlock and Petyon Stovall that Ronnie Thompson was preaching racial hatred to the student athletes under his supervision at BSU. Stovall said that Thompson would often and out of nowhere explain to them how they should disdain and distrust people of other skin color. This was about 10,000 times worse than anything Schnatter is accused of.
Remember the huge deal about that? The outcry? How much Thompson was reviled?
Of course there wasn't any huge deal....there was no deal at all. The media wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole and the university acted like it never happened. They instead paid off Thompson with a ton of money.
Nobody really cares about racism and racial hatred. That's a charade. Some people are hysterically committed towards a political agenda and punishing deviation from the establishment dogma on racial matters....but they don't give a flying fuck about racism and racial hatred. In fact, they often do their best to promote them.S Sherm, tell it like it is!!! Love it and this is absolutely true! Thompson was a racist to the core. |
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Post by cardfan on Aug 17, 2018 14:32:33 GMT -6
Let's contrast this whole ridiculous thing to the outcry and the university's reaction to a previous notable example of actual racism. It was revealed by Jason Whitlock and Petyon Stovall that Ronnie Thompson was preaching racial hatred to the student athletes under his supervision at BSU. Stovall said that Thompson would often and out of nowhere explain to them how they should disdain and distrust people of other skin color. This was about 10,000 times worse than anything Schnatter is accused of.
Remember the huge deal about that? The outcry? How much Thompson was reviled?
Of course there wasn't any huge deal....there was no deal at all. The media wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole and the university acted like it never happened. They instead paid off Thompson with a ton of money.
Nobody really cares about racism and racial hatred. That's a charade. Some people are hysterically committed towards a political agenda and punishing deviation from the establishment dogma on racial matters....but they don't give a flying fuck about racism and racial hatred. In fact, they often do their best to promote them. Yes but some people were happier with the “white BOT members” and administration that time because they did nothing but apologize to Ronnie and give him a 250k parting gift... |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2018 20:59:30 GMT -6
Wasn’t David Letterman a misogynist in the workplace and cheated on his wife. He made a public apology and all is forgiven.
Nobody is removing his name from the Communications Building, or returning his donations. Letterman hasn’t been shamed in public. I wonder why?
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Post by 00hmh on Aug 19, 2018 21:34:46 GMT -6
Lot of things different. Not just the public outcry.
Dave subsequently has straightened out his act quite a bit.
Much of that is also very old news.
More important it was different both in the public attention he received then, and that he didn't double down on his offensive behavior immediately after apology.
And most important, I don't think he made any gifts to Purdue or Louisville...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2018 6:02:25 GMT -6
And most important, I don't think he made any gifts to Purdue or Louisville...  ? |
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Post by williamtsherman on Aug 20, 2018 19:17:27 GMT -6
Obviously schnatter was pegged as an evil person for opposing NFL players taking a knee. That was driving this as much as anything.
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Post by 00hmh on Aug 20, 2018 20:20:49 GMT -6
He got a spotlight because of that.
But he is not that good in the spotlight without a script, never seemed to recognize he was under scrutiny and represented a company. He was a spokesperson, and his position as an individual was going to impact the company.
He hurt the company, doesn't exactly seem adept at damage control. A knack to cluelessly make it worse ...
And the NFL controversy became part of his brand.
That meant the schools who had in essence adopted his brand were in a spot. A sincere apology and then playing it cool might have worked.
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Post by Lurkin McGurkin on Aug 21, 2018 9:16:39 GMT -6
Lot of things different. Not just the public outcry. Dave subsequently has straightened out his act quite a bit. Much of that is also very old news. More important it was different both in the public attention he received then, and that he didn't double down on his offensive behavior immediately after apology. And most important, I don't think he made any gifts to Purdue or Louisville... And he's a liberal. |
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Post by Bigfoot on Aug 23, 2018 5:39:23 GMT -6
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Post by realitycheck on Aug 23, 2018 15:04:33 GMT -6
About time. The damage is done though..this should have never gotten this far. Im guessing there was a bigger outcry than many of you on here are willing to accept. Oh I'm sure it was massive. This is an example of our President caving. A major loss of respect for him in many eyes. That's the outcry I'm hearing. |
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Post by 00hmh on Aug 23, 2018 15:48:50 GMT -6
About time. The damage is done though..this should have never gotten this far. Im guessing there was a bigger outcry than many of you on here are willing to accept. Oh I'm sure it was massive. This is an example of our President caving. A major loss of respect for him in many eyes. That's the outcry I'm hearing. Really?
If there is a massive backlash and he is spending time talking about this instead of raising money, working the legislature, promoting BSU and the sports programs among others, and managing other even more important problems, it is simply a necessary thing for him to do.
I have a lot of respect for Schnatter, who is the one who caved initially by withdrawing from his board, then either made an insincere apology or bungled his communication with his later actions that seem to many to negate it.
I'll criticize a raft of the people who have overblown this situation, but not Mearns who has to pay the price for it. And I am willing to argue with you if you think Schnatter deserves no blame at all for his actions. Even if you hate political correctness dominating, the need for some that is just reality when you represent a business or a University. It is at some point just not professional to ignore it.
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