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Post by 00hmh on Nov 19, 2018 19:24:19 GMT -6
I’m not sure how are SOS can be 280 if that’s what I’m reading...Purdue, VT, Alabama....all top 50 teams It's the conference SOS. Not very relevant, at any point probably. Very few games included right now I'd guess. Get sweeps to tell you how defined, why he brought it up in first place. |
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Post by redbirdman on Nov 19, 2018 19:27:02 GMT -6
Kid you are right our schedule currently ranks 44th by Sagarin & he has us as of sundays games ranked 112th.
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Post by realitycheck on Nov 19, 2018 21:49:06 GMT -6
I think we are likely to win a fair share of our games the rest of the way and either win the West or come pretty close. Hell we might even knock off Buffalo although I think we play there this year. I just get irked when I see us continually accept mediocrity and make excuses when we play like dog crap. Not by our coaches so much as some of our fan base who act like this is just how it is and our past success was just a one time whimsical few years. That is pure bullshit.
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Post by sweep on Nov 20, 2018 8:30:52 GMT -6
I’m not sure how are SOS can be 280 if that’s what I’m reading...Purdue, VT, Alabama....all top 50 teams It's our current IN CONFERENCE SOS........................... |
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Post by sweep on Nov 20, 2018 8:32:29 GMT -6
I’m not sure how are SOS can be 280 if that’s what I’m reading...Purdue, VT, Alabama....all top 50 teams It's the conference SOS. Not very relevant, at any point probably. Very few games included right now I'd guess. Get sweeps to tell you how defined, why he brought it up in first place. I was using it to illustrate winning the West isn't a big deal. If you have a better metric we would like to see it. |
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Post by 00hmh on Nov 20, 2018 9:00:42 GMT -6
It's the conference SOS. Not very relevant, at any point probably. Very few games included right now I'd guess. Get sweeps to tell you how defined, why he brought it up in first place. I was using it to illustrate winning the West isn't a big deal. If you have a better metric I would like to see it. Doesnt SOS just measure the strength of schedule played by conference schools? Surely SOS isn't as important as conference RPI which is less important than it's power rating. None mean all that much after 4 games. The point made clearly in this thread. Winning the 11th or 12th rated conference is after all the best result possible! After all we are in the MAC, and with a comparable or smaller budget than other schools. What do you want? |
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Post by sweep on Nov 20, 2018 9:08:07 GMT -6
I was using it to illustrate winning the West isn't a big deal. If you have a better metric I would like to see it. Doesnt SOS just measure the strength of schedule played by conference schools? Surely SOS isn't as important as conference RPI which is less important than it's power rating. None mean all that much after 4 games. The point made clearly in this thread. Winning the 11th or 12th rated conference is after all the best result possible! After all we are in the MAC, and with a comparable or smaller budget than other schools. What do you want? The last time I checked this conference doesn't play balanced schedules and one division is quite a bit better than the other. But you go girl. |
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Post by 00hmh on Nov 20, 2018 10:14:06 GMT -6
Doesnt SOS just measure the strength of schedule played by conference schools? Surely SOS isn't as important as conference RPI which is less important than it's power rating. None mean all that much after 4 games. The point made clearly in this thread. Winning the 11th or 12th rated conference is after all the best result possible! After all we are in the MAC, and with a comparable or smaller budget than other schools. The last time I checked this conference doesn't play balanced schedules and one division is quite a bit better than the other. Really?
East at the moment 10th, West 12th. (.2 out of 11th)
None of which by the way explains your odd choice of Conference SOS to make whatever point you were making.
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Post by sweep on Nov 20, 2018 10:42:07 GMT -6
The last time I checked this conference doesn't play balanced schedules and one division is quite a bit better than the other. Really?
East at the moment 10th, West 12th. (.2 out of 11th)
None of which by the way explains your odd choice of Conference SOS to make whatever point you were making.
I love it, you ridicule me for using a an early in conference SOS stat and then turn right around an use Sagrin as your metric. Sheesh.................I also love how you continually jump back and forth between different computer models in an attempt to try and dig yourself out of the whatever hole you are currently in. I won't even get into how Sagarin uses a (wait for it) FUTURE SOS component in his mathematical models. I guess it's okay with 00 if he uses it, but if someone else just mentions it it's a major issue. |
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Post by 00hmh on Nov 20, 2018 10:54:45 GMT -6
Really?
East at the moment 10th, West 12th. (.2 out of 11th)
None of which by the way explains your odd choice of Conference SOS to make whatever point you were making.
I love it, you ridicule me for using a an early in conference SOS stat and then turn right around an use Sagrin as your metric. Sheesh................. No. I question you for using the conference SOS to define strength of the conference and meaningfulness of winning the MAC West.
And then for responding with something of a ridiculous argument saying the East and the West in the MAC are quite a bit different in any really important way, and that somehow justifies making the comparison by SOS.
Let's be completely clear where you are ridiculous, where you are just using odd reasoning, and where you are just trolling to argue about nothing.
Oops. Looks like all are the same here. |
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Post by sweep on Nov 20, 2018 10:59:21 GMT -6
I love it, you ridicule me for using a an early in conference SOS stat and then turn right around an use Sagrin as your metric. Sheesh................. No. I question you for using the conference SOS to define strength of the conference and meaningfulness of winning the MAC West.
And then for responding with something of a ridiculous argument saying the East and the West in the MAC are quite a bit different in any really important way, and that somehow justifies making the comparison by SOS.
Let's be completely clear where you are ridiculous, where you are just using odd reasoning, and where you are just trolling to argue about nothing.
Oops. Looks like all are the same here. Good Lord are seven years old, I wasn't using the raw number as an overtly accurate or meaningful stat I was just illustrating winning the west isn't a big achievement. Now go back to trying to argue Louisville is an upstart program. |
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Post by realitycheck on Nov 20, 2018 15:45:19 GMT -6
I cannot begin to tell you how much I have missed the 00hmh vs. Halftime/Sweep rivalry and banter. Not joking at all. It is the odd couple personified. Both clearly intelligent and opinionated on completely opposite sides of the issues/topics that occupy the Cardinal faithful. One pontificates and speculates the other jeers and smears. Rejoice in this never ending battle of the ages.  |
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Post by 00hmh on Nov 20, 2018 16:07:05 GMT -6
I cannot begin to tell you how much I have missed the 00hmh vs. Halftime/Sweep rivalry and banter. Not joking at all. It is the odd couple personified. Both clearly intelligent and opinionated on completely opposite sides of the issues/topics that occupy the Cardinal faithful. One pontificates and speculates the other jeers and smears. Rejoice in this never ending battle of the ages. View Attachment Wish I saw more about issues. Opinionated is the part I usually address, no gripe there....issues of substance, I like that! But name calling is about style not substance, a nuisance, noise preventing our usually genteel discussion. |
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Post by JacksonStreetElite on Nov 20, 2018 16:44:22 GMT -6
Besides the fact that 00 either can't understand or can't honestly respond to anything he reads...
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Post by 00hmh on Nov 20, 2018 17:29:30 GMT -6
Besides the fact that 00 either can't understand or can't honestly respond to anything he reads.. Don't understand that. Honest. Maybe you can explain better? |
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