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Post by gocards17 on Dec 11, 2018 20:49:41 GMT -6
With all the critics of the coaching staff and players on this board, why haven't one of you sired the stud you all say is needed? I know one of you has a son or grandson that is just the "stud" that BSU needs to take the program to the next level. So which one of you critics will step up and put your kids name out there to be the next great BSU hopeful??
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Post by rmcalhoun on Dec 11, 2018 21:37:37 GMT -6
Well my son is 8 and I am afraid he will probably end up being the Basketball MGR. I wish there was a magic button where someone could do what you ask but there is not.
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Post by gocards17 on Dec 11, 2018 21:44:26 GMT -6
Well my son is 8 and I am afraid he will probably end up being the Basketball MGR. I wish there was a magic button where someone could do what you ask but there is not. It's not what I ask for but what some of your fellow critics want. BSU has the players it has for a reason. Its not the coaching staff. I feel they do the best they can do considering the situation recruiting is in these days.
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Post by realitycheck on Dec 11, 2018 21:49:41 GMT -6
With all the critics of the coaching staff and players on this board, why haven't one of you sired the stud you all say is needed? I know one of you has a son or grandson that is just the "stud" that BSU needs to take the program to the next level. So which one of you critics will step up and put your kids name out there to be the next great BSU hopeful?? Last time I checked, siring a stud was not a criteria for voicing an opinion. I’m not a fan of ripping college kids personally but coaches are paid large sums of money in this business and are subject to criticism and praise alike. It goes with the territory.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Dec 11, 2018 22:00:00 GMT -6
If I did have a son though that was gifted enough to earn a scholarship to any school. One of the first things I would try to teach him his neer search your name on social media or ever read a message board. Being a critic is not unique to Ball State if anything Ball State and its fans are mild. Pop into any fanboard or pick a school and start searching players names as the game is being played. It just all comes with the territory
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Post by sweep on Dec 11, 2018 22:03:00 GMT -6
Well my son is 8 and I am afraid he will probably end up being the Basketball MGR. I wish there was a magic button where someone could do what you ask but there is not. I feel they do the best they can do considering the situation recruiting is in these days. What "situation" are you referring to ?
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Post by rmcalhoun on Dec 11, 2018 22:09:42 GMT -6
Well my son is 8 and I am afraid he will probably end up being the Basketball MGR. I wish there was a magic button where someone could do what you ask but there is not. It's not what I ask for but what some of your fellow critics want. BSU has the players it has for a reason. Its not the coaching staff. I feel they do the best they can do considering the situation recruiting is in these days. What is the reason BSU has the players it has? Are you referring to BSU lacking in resources or Location etc.. We have a good arena, a new practice facility and plenty of basketballs.(Thats a joke a coach claimed we did not have B balls.) I do not like ripping the players and I try not but if one is having a bad stretch I will say damn whoever it is not playing well right now. I am not going to sit around with Blinders on pretending everything is great. As far as the coaches they know what they are signing up for.. Every move they make is going to be examined and second guessed.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Dec 11, 2018 22:23:15 GMT -6
I went back and reread all of your old posts found this one where you speak of our offense.. Is this not criticizing the offense which comes directly from the coach or were you criticizing the guards.
Mar 27, 2018 7:25:38 GMT -5 gocards17 said: The consensus of this board is for a "bad ass" post player and why doesn't Whitford recruit one. Well, if you watched any games this year you would see that the ball rarely enters the post. When the ball did enter the post for a 6-8 game stint, the team won. The ball was shared and assists were up. Once the 3 ball started flying again the victories dried up. Look at a team like Loyola-Chicago, how are they able to compete with the Power 5's? They share the basketball. How many times this year has there been one pass and a 3 point shot? Everyone has to be involved for success. Why would a "bad ass" big come to BSU when the ball does not enter the paint and all he will do is set high ball screens??
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Post by williamtsherman on Dec 11, 2018 22:24:20 GMT -6
Well my son is 8 and I am afraid he will probably end up being the Basketball MGR. I wish there was a magic button where someone could do what you ask but there is not. It's not what I ask for but what some of your fellow critics want. BSU has the players it has for a reason. Its not the coaching staff. I feel they do the best they can do considering the situation recruiting is in these days. Why don't we have the players Buffalo has? Or the players Ray McCallum had?
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Post by rmcalhoun on Dec 11, 2018 22:26:44 GMT -6
I think we are playing well this year and we had better play well this year because after Trey Graduates we are going to be foobarred because Whit still has not found a replacement.
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Post by gocards17 on Dec 11, 2018 22:40:16 GMT -6
I went back and reread all of your old posts found this one where you speak of our offense.. Is this not criticizing the offense which comes directly from the coach or were you criticizing the guards. Mar 27, 2018 7:25:38 GMT -5 gocards17 said: The consensus of this board is for a "bad ass" post player and why doesn't Whitford recruit one. Well, if you watched any games this year you would see that the ball rarely enters the post. When the ball did enter the post for a 6-8 game stint, the team won. The ball was shared and assists were up. Once the 3 ball started flying again the victories dried up. Look at a team like Loyola-Chicago, how are they able to compete with the Power 5's? They share the basketball. How many times this year has there been one pass and a 3 point shot? Everyone has to be involved for success. Why would a "bad ass" big come to BSU when the ball does not enter the paint and all he will do is set high ball screens?? No, I was not criticizing the coach or players. Just a simple observation. Coaches call plays and it is up to the players to execute. If you want to see my post as criticism, look at it this way. I came up in a different era of basketball. This era seems to focus more on three point shots instead of ball movement to get the best high percentage shot. That's just not at BSU but college basketball in general.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Dec 11, 2018 22:59:17 GMT -6
Fair enough and I think you hit on something important. Most all of us grew up with a different era of basketball. Most of us still want the dominant big man but maybe that is just not a thing anymore. I really dislike the way the game is played today but its the current trend of Basketball.
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Post by lmills72 on Dec 11, 2018 23:23:14 GMT -6
I can understand critics not sending their kids to a school/program they find lacking.
My question would be: Why haven't the supporters of the program sired a 7-footer to patrol the paint or a lightning-quick point guard to run the show? C'mon guys, if you REALLY BELIEVE in the program, time to get busy.
Of course, maybe everybody's waiting for a sign from one of our all-time greats that THEY BELIEVE enough in the program to send one of their progeny to good ol' BSU.
I mean, I'm sure that if Ray McCallum had a son good enough to play Div. I basketball he'd send him to his alma mater, right?
What's that? You say he did have a son who played not only DI basketball but in the NBA. And he didn't go to BSU? What is the world coming to?
Well, surely if someone like Bill Gillis had a son of DI caliber, he'd play for the Cards. What's that you say? Purdue? Ball State wasn't even in the running? Hard to believe.
How about sons of Dan Palombizio? Bonzi Wells? No, you say?
Well, thank goodness for Chandler Thompson, I guess.
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Post by cardfan on Dec 12, 2018 4:25:10 GMT -6
Not sure where you’re going to go and NOT find critics of a program. Living and dying with the success of their teams is what fans do. Players, such as Trey, have to learn how to ignore it. They take instructions from coaches, not fans. Player parents/friends need to be tough enough to not let it get to them too. Fan is short for fanatic and criticism has always been part of the deal an athlete or coach signs up for.
Our guys are good people and we say that. Regularly. Some of them (like Trey) are difference makers in the world already as college kids. And we acknowledge that. Regularly. But when a team steps on the floor it’s going to take criticism when it doesn’t play well. Just the way it is and always has been. The players need to be mentally tough To let it roll off their backs, especially if they want to play on a D1 basketball team. I’ve heard worse criticism hurled at high school players vs what we complain about on here so I think we’re a pretty tame bunch. Try the Kentucky or iu fan forums....
Telling fans to sire and put their kid out there to earn having a voice is ridiculous. Fans are going to fan. Always have and We’re fans. Some of us on here are or have been coaches and understand the game pretty well. Some of us have or have had sons/daughters play organized sports and understand what all comes with that. And, don’t allude to some “situation with recruiting” as a reason for why our roster always seems to have a hole or weaknesses if you’re not going to explain just what that is. Are you saying the coach isn’t a good recruiter? Or that we aren’t cheating while everyone else is? Are we lacking some attractive attributes that draw the best players? Bsu seems to have plenty offer to basketball players, so What is it? Help us understand if you know.
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Post by frozenbaugh on Dec 12, 2018 6:13:06 GMT -6
Swing and a miss on this one.
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