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Post by CallingBS on Jan 20, 2019 11:59:59 GMT -6
Gora, who was awful for men's sports, especially the bb program, was not in Muncie during Maui. Her tenure started in 2004. Otherwise, good points. Go Cards! RF True. I didn't mean immediately after Maui. She was aware of Maui, though, which partly prompted her question.
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Post by CallingBS on Jan 20, 2019 12:00:17 GMT -6
"Buck would coach circles around Whit. He would not stand for the complete lack of fundamentals we see with Whit's teams. "
This is like conjecturing on a Justin Bieber vs. Pee Wee Herman MMA match. Besides being in charge while the program sank into quicksand, I don't see that Buckley demonstrated any particular coaching ability either. He somehow managed to squeeze 12 losses, and a MAC tourney semis exit, out of the massively talented Maui team. Not just any coach could do that. That team belonged in the top 25, and the round of 32, at least. Fair enough
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Post by reevo on Jan 20, 2019 12:21:04 GMT -6
I tend to credit the head coaching for recruiting, bad or good. I understand assistants do a lot of the legwork and traveling. But, after all, the head coach chooses the assistants. The head coach makes the decisions where to deploy all the various resources including the assistants and the scholarships. And I believe the players choose the program based primarily on the head coach. If the program had recruited poorly during those years, I would have certainly blamed Ray and not Buckley. It's not like Ray got one or two good players due to Buckley, but recruited poorly otherwise. The administration had to have an acquiescent head coach to do what they did and Buckley gave them that. A ballsier head coach would have made things very difficult for them, given the size, temper and expectations of the fanbase at that time. Buckley played along, kept his job for a while, the program was emasculated and here we are today. I credit Ray for recruiting during Ray's tenure and Buckley for the recruiting during Buckley tenure. It was a completely different program before and after Buckley. I don’t disagree as Tim pretty much gave up. The WAD and Gora and administration that allowed the changes were responsible. The restraints were taken off a few years ago but the damage was done. Whitford has a lot more leeway today that Buckley never had.
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Post by sweep on Jan 20, 2019 12:22:20 GMT -6
Gora, who was awful for men's sports, especially the bb program, was not in Muncie during Maui. Her tenure started in 2004. Otherwise, good points. Go Cards! RF True. I didn't mean immediately after Maui. She was aware of Maui, though, which partly prompted her question. I remember the first time I heard Gora speak, she was asked about the substance sports played in a collegian environment, she proceeded to spend thirty seconds on building winning programs and twenty minutes on the importance of gender equity.
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