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Post by rmcalhoun on Nov 16, 2015 13:39:27 GMT -6
Yes there were alot of rumors but I still believe you have to take a chance with players of his supposed caliber. Yes I very well might be but do not disagree with takinga chance on him.
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Post by cardfan on Nov 16, 2015 13:47:45 GMT -6
So all of a sudden Teague wasn't a good signing? WTH?
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Post by jam on Nov 16, 2015 13:54:37 GMT -6
So all of a sudden Teague wasn't a good signing? WTH? Life is full of rationalizations and this board is no exception.
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Post by thebsukid on Nov 16, 2015 14:12:11 GMT -6
Well, I would have signed him and I hope he gets to play!!!
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Post by williamtsherman on Nov 16, 2015 14:15:46 GMT -6
Rick, Dick and Ray made a living off of high risk, high reward recruits. However, like so many things, the basic idea is sound, but not everyone can execute it effectively.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2015 14:34:59 GMT -6
Yeah and I think the potential reward was more of a sure thing on some of those recruits. A lot of coaches didn't project Teague as a future starter at the DI level.
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Post by cardfan on Nov 16, 2015 14:42:33 GMT -6
You spoke with these coaches?
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Post by thebsukid on Nov 16, 2015 15:08:18 GMT -6
I can not accept that Teague did not translate to a high major level...some services had him at like the 104th best player in the Country....possibly some stopped looking at him since he committed to BSU rather early
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Post by cardfan on Nov 16, 2015 15:13:39 GMT -6
A big factor in his light recruitment was academics. He was not expected to qualify.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2015 15:45:35 GMT -6
...some services had him at like the 104th best player in the Country..
Yeah and Max preps has him at 270 and Rivals doesn't have him ranked at all. That 104 ranking was early in his Junior year and he slipped way down the rankings lists when he showed little to no improvement between his Junior and Senior seasons. Do you guys honestly believe a 6'8" 185 pound kid who averaged 12 points a game in High School is going to come in and tear it up at the DI level ? I am sorry but he just isn't the player you guys think he is.
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Post by thebsukid on Nov 16, 2015 16:14:00 GMT -6
Halftime...wouldn't we take 270??? And, in fairness, Teague played on a very competitive team and while I have not researched it the points on Pike we likely well distributed. I also agree with Cardfan that his grades and SAT's hurt his recruiting...the kid was an Indiana All Star.....I'll take one of those everytime....
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Post by cardfan on Nov 16, 2015 16:15:20 GMT -6
I never expected him to come in and tear it up. I did expect us to be able to use his skill set, length and reach to give us some decent minutes initially and eventually develop into a key contributor by his junior year.
I had hoped for better offensive numbers in hs but he did play in a team with guards who took a lot of shots. Teague didn't take that many. Could have been more aggressive, yes, but he didn't force things. I expect he'll be a streaky explosive type offensive player eventually. What we'll really need is his length and rebounding in defense. He definitely needs to get bigger/stronger.
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Post by universityjim on Nov 16, 2015 16:24:31 GMT -6
we're all gonna die anyway. what the hell does it matter.
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Post by cardfan on Nov 16, 2015 16:25:01 GMT -6
we're all gonna die anyway. what the hell does it matter. Well, can't argue with that.
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Post by 00hmh on Nov 16, 2015 16:26:58 GMT -6
Rick, Dick and Ray made a living off of high risk, high reward recruits. However, like so many things, the basic idea is sound, but not everyone can execute it effectively. Let's face it, high risk means high risk. There is no sure thing. You gamble, you lose some. I don't know what execution you have in mind. Athletes today get more scrutiny and find it harder to avoid trouble on behavioral issues, and it is probably a little harder to keep academically eligible now. On that one most of the execution is up to students. Coaches need to motivate, need to check class attendance and progress. None of those coaches you mention did as much or more than a coach today on any of those counts. Rick for all his discipline requirements in the gym, was particularly lax. Weber would probably have played under Rick. Rick did not do all that much on academics and there was less penalty or none for academic woes. Ray had trouble not understanding that most players were not as personally disciplined as he was, or perhaps thought it was their responsibility. He had troubles with players not meeting his expectations. Dick was a tough guy, often the bad cop as assistant, but ironically he ended up being the one getting blamed for program lack of institutional troubles! Go figure. I think high risk means unpredictable and to some extend unavoidable.
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