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Post by coastalcard on Mar 21, 2022 7:42:11 GMT -6
Everyone knew the portal was going to hurt non-power 5 schools. I think I saw the graphic last night that Texas Tech had 5 from the portal and they were all (or 4/5) from mid-majors.
Good mid-major players want the glamour and opportunity at big schools and big school players not getting minutes want to go to smaller schools to show their stuff.
No way smaller schools come out ahead. The gap between major and mid-major will diverge at a more rapid pace. No more Butlers catching lightning in a bottle and using it to move onward and upward.
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Sparks
Mar 21, 2022 8:03:26 GMT -6
Post by sweep on Mar 21, 2022 8:03:26 GMT -6
No more Butlers catching lightning in a bottle and using it to move onward and upward. That's bullshit, the portal in and of itself didn't change anything at all. It just just made things more visible to the public. The NCAA allowing one transfer without sitting out will make things easier on the athlete, but there were already hundreds of transfers a year prior to last season. Lateral movement is where the real value is under the new rule. Butler's two Final Four teams both contained notable transfers. Some mid-major programs will make it work to their advantage, and some will be Ball State. |
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Sparks
Mar 21, 2022 8:15:28 GMT -6
Post by coastalcard on Mar 21, 2022 8:15:28 GMT -6
No more Butlers catching lightning in a bottle and using it to move onward and upward. That's bullshit Butler's two Final Four teams both contained notable transfers. You are correct. To save me the trouble, list me those notable transfers. |
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Sparks
Mar 21, 2022 8:27:52 GMT -6
Post by sweep on Mar 21, 2022 8:27:52 GMT -6
That's bullshit Butler's two Final Four teams both contained notable transfers. You are correct. To save me the trouble, list me those notable transfers. I am not going to spend time going through old rosters but Ron Nored and Avery Jukes were two of them. |
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Sparks
Mar 21, 2022 10:30:14 GMT -6
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Post by cardfan on Mar 21, 2022 10:30:14 GMT -6
You are correct. To save me the trouble, list me those notable transfers. I am not going to spend time going through old rosters but Ron Nored and Avery Jukes were two of them. Nored wasn’t actually a transfer. Had committed to Wku but the coach left so he decommitted . |
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Sparks
Mar 21, 2022 10:35:13 GMT -6
Post by sweep on Mar 21, 2022 10:35:13 GMT -6
I am not going to spend time going through old rosters but Ron Nored and Avery Jukes were two of them. Nored wasn’t actually a transfer. Had committed to Wku but the coach left so he decommitted . Whoops my bad.......... |
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Post by universityjim on Mar 21, 2022 10:38:58 GMT -6
I am not going to spend time going through old rosters but Ron Nored and Avery Jukes were two of them. Nored wasn’t actually a transfer. Had committed to Wku but the coach left so he decommitted . You listen to the commentators for the tournament games and they make it sound like the power conference teams are being as messed up by the transfer rules as much as everyone else is. They say kids on the bench aren't willing to wait for playing time and leave. Many coaches at all levels have to rebuild their teams every year. Can someone remind me the logic of why the transfer rule changed? It just appears to be creating a big mess where only the bluest of the blue bloods benefit. |
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Post by Lurkin McGurkin on Mar 21, 2022 10:41:17 GMT -6
Can someone remind me the logic of why the transfer rule changed? It just appears to be creating a big mess where only the bluest of the blue bloods benefit. You just answered your own question. |
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Sparks
Mar 21, 2022 11:07:03 GMT -6
Post by sweep on Mar 21, 2022 11:07:03 GMT -6
Nored wasn’t actually a transfer. Had committed to Wku but the coach left so he decommitted . You listen to the commentators for the tournament games and they make it sound like the power conference teams are being as messed up by the transfer rules as much as everyone else is. They say kids on the bench aren't willing to wait for playing time and leave. Many coaches at all levels have to rebuild their teams every year. Can someone remind me the logic of why the transfer rule changed? It just appears to be creating a big mess where only the bluest of the blue bloods benefit. Personally I didn't think it was fair to make a basketball or football athlete sit out a year just because they happen to play a revenue producing sport. |
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Sparks
Mar 21, 2022 11:12:05 GMT -6
Post by sweep on Mar 21, 2022 11:12:05 GMT -6
Can someone remind me the logic of why the transfer rule changed? It just appears to be creating a big mess where only the bluest of the blue bloods benefit. You just answered your own question. Okay, but I don't know if they really benefit any more now than they did under the old rule. You could also argue it was comparatively easier for major programs to sit transfers for a year. |
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Post by williamtsherman on Mar 21, 2022 11:43:50 GMT -6
Letting kids play where they want to play is a good enough reason, in my book, to loosen the transfer restrictions. My basic philosophy is that you shouldn't coerce someone to do something they would rather not do, unless there is a VERY compelling reason for it. Maintaining the strength of mid-major basketball relative to power school basketball is not anywhere close to being a compelling reason. It's just a preference of a limited group of people.
If you think you should limit the choices of players because you know their best interests better than they do....that's self-serving bullshit.
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Sparks
Mar 21, 2022 17:52:34 GMT -6
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Post by coastalcard on Mar 21, 2022 17:52:34 GMT -6
You are correct. To save me the trouble, list me those notable transfers. I am not going to spend time going through old rosters but Ron Nored and Avery Jukes were two of them. Actually, I did go thru the Butler roster prior to my posting which brought your usual uninformed bull shit response. Jukes was the only transfer and that was just for the first of the two final game appearances. Hardly justifies a significant list of notable transfers. |
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Sparks
Mar 21, 2022 18:46:35 GMT -6
Post by sweep on Mar 21, 2022 18:46:35 GMT -6
I am not going to spend time going through old rosters but Ron Nored and Avery Jukes were two of them. Actually, I did go thru the Butler roster prior to my posting which brought your usual uninformed bull shit response. Jukes was the only transfer and that was just for the first of the two final game appearances. Hardly justifies a significant list of notable transfers. Good, have you figured out what the portal is yet ? |
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Sparks
Mar 21, 2022 21:07:12 GMT -6
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Post by 00hmh on Mar 21, 2022 21:07:12 GMT -6
Letting kids play where they want to play is a good enough reason, in my book, to loosen the transfer restrictions. My basic philosophy is that you shouldn't coerce someone to do something they would rather not do...If you think you should limit the choices of players because you know their best interests better than they do... You go to far if you say there should be total player freedom. There can and should be some balance between the player's rights and the institutions which make playing possible. That I agree. It's pretty reasonable at some level to create rules and limitations which a player voluntarily agrees to and then have some consequences when he breaks the agreement. The transfer rules try to do it and may have gone too far if it harms the schools that gave the chance to shine. |
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Sparks
Mar 22, 2022 16:11:02 GMT -6
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Post by officerfarva on Mar 22, 2022 16:11:02 GMT -6
There's an article about Sparks in the Indy Star today. He says:
“So far I've heard from Pittsburgh, Virginia, Oklahoma, Indiana, Illinois, Cincinnati, Iowa State, Loyola Chicago, West Virginia, Arizona State and receiving serious interest from West Virginia, Iowa State, Loyola Chicago, Indiana so far.”
That's a hell of a list. He's gone, folks.
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