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Post by comet on Aug 15, 2022 6:38:54 GMT -6
Some insight is that "people ain't knocking down the door to play us".
Too, we "owed" some of these games, or they were already scheduled.
Some considerations that I got are that Lewis is pretty frugal with the scheduling and ain't
gonna go and spend 30,000+ just to go play some teams that are willing to play us.
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Post by cardfan on Aug 15, 2022 7:31:58 GMT -6
I'm betting we see a much better schedule next year in terms of teams that will challenge us. I would expect more will be done to secure home and homes, or 2 for 1's with better teams to try to get them into our building. Not sure how aggressive whitford was in convincing "name" programs to come to us. Obviously we'll see pretty quickly how things will operate under Lewis.
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Post by 00hmh on Aug 15, 2022 7:59:15 GMT -6
Maybe it's pretty typical for 1st year coaches to hedge on the schedule a bit just to get their feet wet and have some success. I don't know. I do know it's a typical Hunsaker schedule. Have we forgotten Cardinal Strich? (or maybe we just had trouble finding teams willing to come to our place this year?) You are right. Two counts, one is that it's OK to have an early patsy. I don't like 3 lower level games, but one is probably desirable and certainly to be expected. Why 3 was the first question I had looking at this, too. Second, finding good home games and building a schedule is tougher than people think. The away dates we have are fine. And if this year was a year ISU came to Muncie it would look a lot better. We did not do too badly with the Christmas Break games, those are a part of our schedule that are a necessary evil, pretty hard to fill, and always a bit ugly. The other thing that occurs to me is that the original home schedule no doubt was altered by our game in Indy, which was a good move to get us into that market, but having them at home instead of would be better for our schedule... We are dreaming to think we can expect to get IU or PU to come to town. The goal should be to get as many home and home series with regional mid majors as possible. We just are not going to get big guys to come to Muncie and finding good opponents to fit us into their schedule at good times isn't a one year issue, that has to be planned well ahead. I am not as quick to say Lewis engineered this schedule, as much as he might be next year and beyond. |
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Post by BSU Card Fan in AZ on Aug 15, 2022 8:00:58 GMT -6
If you recall, Hunsaker had the same issues getting teams to come in. I remember the radio shows with people bitching to him about it. Not sure he went after 2 for 1s though. I think he wanted 1 for 1. Not sure.He also believed setting the schedule based on the makeup of our team. Maybe Lewis is doing the same. Not sure what he has, so going easier to start.
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Post by 00hmh on Aug 15, 2022 8:02:55 GMT -6
Some insight is that "people ain't knocking down the door to play us". Too, we "owed" some of these games, or they were already scheduled. Some considerations that I got are that Lewis is pretty frugal with the scheduling and ain't gonna go and spend 30,000+ just to go play some teams that are willing to play us. The issue is more than just paying somebody else to come play us...it's getting that home and home built in over future years. |
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Post by CallingBS on Aug 15, 2022 10:18:37 GMT -6
The last I heard one-off home games cost around $100,000. That was probably 5 years ago, so I'd bet they're more than that now. Our best bet is home-home series with other mids.
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Post by cardfan on Aug 15, 2022 10:28:12 GMT -6
If you recall, Hunsaker had the same issues getting teams to come in. I remember the radio shows with people bitching to him about it. Not sure he went after 2 for 1s though. I think he wanted 1 for 1. Not sure.He also believed setting the schedule based on the makeup of our team. Maybe Lewis is doing the same. Not sure what he has, so going easier to start. [/ Yep, some schools flat out told him they would not come to muncie , |
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Post by 00hmh on Aug 15, 2022 12:22:40 GMT -6
That was in a day 30 year's ago where it was less about money more about wanting a good game, but not too good...
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Post by calpoly on Aug 15, 2022 12:35:57 GMT -6
If you recall, Hunsaker had the same issues getting teams to come in. I remember the radio shows with people bitching to him about it. Not sure he went after 2 for 1s though. I think he wanted 1 for 1. Not sure.He also believed setting the schedule based on the makeup of our team. Maybe Lewis is doing the same. Not sure what he has, so going easier to start. Of course, nobody wanted to play us at that time; it was more about losing to BSU than $$ I believe |
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Post by williamtsherman on Aug 15, 2022 21:10:50 GMT -6
I find scheduling threads to be the most boring of all types of threads. Until somebody can demonstrate to me some sort of correlation between non-conf strength or schedule (NCSOS) and eventual team success, I'm going to continue to not care very much.
It was pretty interesting that year where BSU was actually in serious contention for the very worst NCSOS in the whole country. I mean...you know...interesting relative to the other things the program offered us. Also, it was several years into Whitford's tenure, so it was obviously a deliberate choice to schedule some wins, which indicated the overall lameness of Whitford's program. Not that the realistic and honest among us needed any more evidence at that point.
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Post by 00hmh on Aug 15, 2022 22:25:33 GMT -6
I find scheduling threads to be the most boring of all types of threads. Until somebody can demonstrate to me some sort of correlation between non-conf strength or schedule (NCSOS) and eventual team success, I'm going to continue to not care very much. I guess if you don't actually go to games or watch them you don't care much? Those who buy tickets probably care even more about who we are playing. |
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Post by reds37 on Aug 16, 2022 14:18:03 GMT -6
is the Duquesne a home and home or is this just a 1 time game at Duquesne? does anyone know?
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Post by rmcalhoun on Aug 16, 2022 15:04:03 GMT -6
I find scheduling threads to be the most boring of all types of threads. Until somebody can demonstrate to me some sort of correlation between non-conf strength or schedule (NCSOS) and eventual team success, I'm going to continue to not care very much. I guess if you don't actually go to games or watch them you don't care much? Those who buy tickets probably care even more about who we are playing. Who we play non con has never been a thought for me when purchasing tickets. |
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Post by thebsukid on Aug 16, 2022 15:26:32 GMT -6
I believe I can recall Purdue in the old gym, and Michigan, and Mississippi State in Worthen. Anyone remember those games?
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Post by 00hmh on Aug 16, 2022 15:39:05 GMT -6
I believe I can recall Purdue in the old gym, and Michigan, and Mississippi State in Worthen. Anyone remember those games? A snowball in hell has a better chance than that happening. Although in Dante's version the snowball has a chance... |
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