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Post by rmcalhoun on Aug 16, 2022 10:48:40 GMT -6
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Post by BSU Card Fan in AZ on Aug 16, 2022 12:25:50 GMT -6
A matter of time.
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Post by villagepub on Aug 16, 2022 21:28:07 GMT -6
BSU just doesn't deserve nice things.  |
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Post by Lurkin McGurkin on Aug 17, 2022 6:06:08 GMT -6
You know what they say.
Whatever Beth wants, Beth Goetz.
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Post by officerfarva on Aug 17, 2022 8:49:35 GMT -6
You know what they say. Whatever Beth wants, Beth Goetz. *rimshot* |
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Post by williamtsherman on Aug 22, 2022 10:37:30 GMT -6
"Ball State director of athletics Beth Goetz was named the 2022 NCAA Division I FBS (Football Bowl Subdivision) Nike Executive of the Year, chosen by Women Leaders in College Sports Tuesday.....Goetz becomes the second Ball State director of athletics to earn the honor after Andi Seger was awarded in 2002."
So, apparently the total destruction of your school's most thriving, conspicuous and fun sports program is not seen as any sort of negative factor by this group. My guess is that strict adherence to establishment political dogma is vastly more important to the voting.
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Post by 00hmh on Aug 22, 2022 14:15:27 GMT -6
Andi Seger was lionized by the group for contribution to Women's programs, deserved some credit for that, and for being strict about NCAA rules.
The latter to an outsider was courageous "cleaning up" the house, to those of us observing here more like tearing down a house that needed a little cleaning. Andi, please just straighten up the living room. Nobody else in the neighborhood was even doing that...so we didn't appreciate it so much.
Beth has deserved some professional recognition. And the two cases are different. I can't lump them together.
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Post by williamtsherman on Aug 22, 2022 16:29:07 GMT -6
I have to admit that Seger's emphasis on women's programs was much appreciated by the tens of fans that attend their games every year.
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Post by 00hmh on Aug 22, 2022 19:27:53 GMT -6
I have to admit that Seger's emphasis on women's programs was much appreciated by the tens of fans that attend their games every year. A lot of women athletes, coaches and staff had been added 1975-2000 and that is the number that counted in athletic administration. |
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Post by williamtsherman on Aug 23, 2022 5:45:46 GMT -6
I have to admit that Seger's emphasis on women's programs was much appreciated by the tens of fans that attend their games every year. A lot of women athletes, coaches and staff had been added 1975-2000 and that is the number that counted in athletic administration. Right. A lot of money and resources were funneled to an establishment-favored group...and that's the name of the game. A problem for Goetz is that some people involved in a hiring of a big-time program AD are still interested in actual competence over political actions. If the BSU football team finishes the season where it is predicted to, that's not going to look good on her. |
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Post by 00hmh on Aug 23, 2022 6:43:20 GMT -6
No doubt that college sports is a a good old boy business and while Beth has done well her next job won't be a top tier one.
That makes her pretty much like any of a dozen other good young ADs. Men and a few women.
Compare Bubba. He made it to his dream job having done less at BSU, but that was not necessarily all merit, and his having made it to a top job, not sure what it proves about anything.
BSU didn't get all that much benefit from what made him a success.
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Post by thebsukid on Aug 26, 2022 7:16:17 GMT -6
Congratulations to Beth!
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Post by williamtsherman on Aug 27, 2022 7:56:15 GMT -6
No doubt that college sports is a a good old boy business Meaning that some still care about competence and winning as opposed to promoting woke policies and political posing. |
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Post by 00hmh on Aug 27, 2022 8:25:04 GMT -6
No doubt that college sports is a a good old boy business Meaning that some still care about competence and winning as opposed to promoting woke policies and political posing. Good old boys may indeed not be overly concerned with or even alert to racial or social discrimination and injustice, but that hardly means they stand for competence or excellence. More a case of being friendly sociable old guys everyone likes. Well, everyone in their white make group, excluding anybody from an urban setting, excluding blacks, excluding women from that peer group.
"What's wrong with that" you say? Nothing wrong if that were just a matter of taste in a group of friends, no great harm, but if extends to business or professional association there is a problem, don't you think?
Where do you get your definition anyway? Oxford Language says a good old boy is "a man who embodies some or all of the qualities considered characteristic of many white men of the southern US, including an unpretentious, convivial manner, conservative or intolerant attitudes, and a strong sense of fellowship with and loyalty to other members of his peer group."
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Post by williamtsherman on Aug 28, 2022 8:13:34 GMT -6
Obviously I got my definition from the way you used the term in your prior post.
Just as obviously you are living in the imaginary world promoted by your echo chamber where it's always 1963. People who allow themselves to notice reality see that establishment-favored groups have an enormous advantage in hiring and school admission to the point where merit, objective measurements, and competence have been disparaged and buried under a mound of woke bullshit. Seems like, as one example, if this supposedly all-powerful old boy network really existed, it's members would see to it that their own children could enter the college admissions process on a fair basis, rather than having to far exceed members of government-favored groups in test scores to be equally considered.
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