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EMU
Oct 23, 2022 13:39:18 GMT -6
Post by villagepub on Oct 23, 2022 13:39:18 GMT -6
I mentioned in this thread earlier in the week that I had concern about the third phase of the game. These two teams are very similar and the third phase could determine the game. Well a blocked PAT on top of TWO turnovers in the red zone and it’s a loss for the Cardinals. We have zero margin of error and in close games, which most of them have been, it comes down to how efficient we can be on offense and well we all saw how that turned out yesterday. Exactly. This program is not great enough to get by on great play. They have to be error free and penalty free to remain in a game. EMU is equally an average team, but they had NO turnovers and win by 4. |
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Post by villagepub on Oct 23, 2022 13:51:24 GMT -6
BSU was out coached. Creighton had a plan for the second half. He knows BSU's offense is more productive in the 2nd half, particularly with its ground game. The way to control the other teams rushing game is to control the clock and take time away from the BSU offense.
We saw a low scoring game that was close at halftime, and favored neither team. The EMU offense moved the ball effectively and ran the clock to 3 or 4 seconds every offensive play.
EMU ran 81 plays covering 37:09 on the clock. BSU had 60 plays in 22:51 and lost by only 4. Creighton and EMU controlled the clock in the 2nd half and kept the BSU rushing game off of the field.
Steele has great endurance and is still fresh in the 4th quarter when defenses are gassed. Creighton gave him no time on the field to show his endurance.
Also, Tyler was out, our Vandy WR transfer was ineffective so Jackson had to carry the receivers. EMU had him covered.
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Post by sdacardinal on Oct 23, 2022 14:45:09 GMT -6
Just watched the colts. Two bad games in two days.
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EMU
Oct 23, 2022 15:18:18 GMT -6
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Post by cardfan on Oct 23, 2022 15:18:18 GMT -6
Just watched the colts. Two bad games in two days. I quit watching that after the first colts possession and terrible punt. |
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EMU
Oct 23, 2022 16:36:34 GMT -6
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Post by coastalcard on Oct 23, 2022 16:36:34 GMT -6
A positive neu contribution (other than the “immaculate” season):
Resurrection of Dancin’ Charlie
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Post by DaRegion on Oct 23, 2022 16:49:34 GMT -6
You just know it's not our year when we lose to Eastern Michigan.
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EMU
Oct 23, 2022 17:25:24 GMT -6
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Post by JacksonStreetElite on Oct 23, 2022 17:25:24 GMT -6
You just know it's not our year when we lose to Eastern Michigan. Losing to the emus is inexcusable in any sport. |
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EMU
Oct 24, 2022 8:51:41 GMT -6
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Post by redfeather on Oct 24, 2022 8:51:41 GMT -6
Just watched the colts. Two bad games in two days. I was at the Colts game yesterday and it’s unreal just how bad their offensive line is. Ryan was got to be second guessing his decision at this point. |
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Post by bsu0 on Oct 24, 2022 9:22:45 GMT -6
I thought that the best part of having Coach Neu as head coach would be the play calling...WRONG...I do not understand why there is not an effort to diversify our offense. Having a qb at the head position one would imagine play calling out of the box...WRONG...Coach Neu, I and many others have been a fan of yours since you were hired, but your lack of innovations on offense in addition to your tendency not to make changes in your lineups and staff when needed are making it hard to continue our support. Coach everything in life changes. Don't afraid of it, embrace it...( remember the option offenses of the 60s and 70s that won numerous National Championships for Alabama, Oklahoma, and Texas? Where are they now? They are on the ash heap of history, greatly modified or completely forgotten. Things change and so should you).
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EMU
Oct 24, 2022 10:04:54 GMT -6
Post by 00hmh on Oct 24, 2022 10:04:54 GMT -6
Just watched the colts. Two bad games in two days. I was at the Colts game yesterday and it’s unreal just how bad their offensive line is. Ryan was got to be second guessing his decision at this point. Colts looked on paper before the season to be a team that could handily win this kind of game, good OL, running attack, and a vet QB who could take advantage of a defense stacked to stop the run, and not be forced into mistakes.
Instead, not only were receivers and line injured early on, but even healthy that line turned out to have critical weakness instead of being a keystone of success. The receivers aren't looking all that bad, but the QB has no time to throw on any obvious pass play, isn't able to run, and too often the team can't establish a run game, resulting in way too many of those obvious passing downs...
Sounds familiar, doesn't it. Except BSU never looked like we were going to be a good team on paper. Our version of similar disappointment is actually the one the coaches had in mind from the start as the best chance to win.
The hell of it may be that what we see is actually the best chance we have. Not much of one.
Making changes at QB and revising the offense is what we speculate is better. Unfortunately the result of that very well could be similar to the Colts trying to adjust to a lack of running game. While Paddock isn't going to be mobile enough or sturdy enough to extend plays, the option of an inexperienced QB as we make major change is going to be tough road. If we do take that route.
I have discarded my original optimistic estimate of 6 wins, looks like 5 is possible, but not at all certain, and it may just be a lot more suffering the rest of the way.
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Post by cardfan on Oct 24, 2022 10:20:13 GMT -6
We clearly aren't good enough to make mistakes and win against any team that can take advantages of those mistakes. During our little win streak the teams we beat just weren't that good. EMU made us pay for the bad penalties, bad snaps, dropped INT's and dropped TD passes, and blocked extra points. Don't have that bad snap, or don't drop that INT, or that TD pass and we win. But our margin for error is so slim we just couldn't keep making those mistakes and expect to win. Personally I don't think we win again. We're just too punchless on offense. As we saw, the defense can only hang on for so long when put in such bad situations. We just aren't good enough at the positions where we need to better. QB can't make enough plays and the oline can't block well enough to just rely on the running game.
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Post by Lurkin McGurkin on Oct 24, 2022 11:00:09 GMT -6
One word: Penalties.
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Post by 00hmh on Oct 24, 2022 11:16:49 GMT -6
I would have maybe said turnovers, but both are sometimes just rub of the green, a bad bounce of the ball, the ref making a marginal call. I like cardfan's idea of needing enough margin for error to overcome adversity, it applies to both of these.
A good team just doesn't make as many errors, do the things where the ref might make a call against you, or throw into coverage where a deflected pass becomes an interception, or fumble and have the ball bounce out of reach.
You can't count on things going your direction every time.
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Post by cardfan on Oct 24, 2022 11:47:10 GMT -6
We had several opportunities to put that game away and failed. EMU was not the better team. We Didn't deserve to win given the crucial mistakes we made. Typical sloppy play evident throughout Neu's tenure. I like Mike and want him to succeed, but the lack of attention to detail we've seen just never gets corrected. Every week "we gotta clean things up." Still waiting.....
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EMU
Oct 24, 2022 12:33:50 GMT -6
Post by 00hmh on Oct 24, 2022 12:33:50 GMT -6
We had several opportunities to put that game away and failed. EMU was not the better team. We Didn't deserve to win given the crucial mistakes we made. Typical sloppy play evident throughout Neu's tenure. I like Mike and want him to succeed, but the lack of attention to detail we've seen just never gets corrected. Every week "we gotta clean things up." Still waiting..... We haven't really put a game away yet. That shows we are not a good team. OTOH, we probably never expected to be a good team. In the middle of things, right now, we have hoped for a bit better than expected. Looking back at the start of the season I think it was consensus among the relative optimists that 5 or 6 wins were possible. Only a small number really thought we'd have 7+.
We thought that because of so many question marks coming in, including at QB. So this mess is partly the hand Neu was dealt. Trying to get any team to the point where there is no sloppy play is a lot more to be expected when you have good talent, experience, especially at QB and where a coaching staff is quality at each staff position. That last one probably something few MAC teams are well enough funded to really expect.
It is not very much fun, but this year I don't think we'll ever get it cleaned up.
Neu has disappointed most of us on offense, surely we expected a better passing attack over his whole tenure than we have had. This year on defense we're probably better than we expected, so these games where the offense just doesn't get it done, it feels really bad.
We've lost games we could have won, got one on the plus side we probably didn't expect to. All in all this is about where we thought we'd be. File under sad but true.
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