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Post by sag on Nov 13, 2022 14:23:15 GMT -6
With the transfer portal as it is, Lewis recruited everyone who’s on the team. He could have picked up a whole new squad That's more than a slight exaggeration...you are right he could have done more. You are right that the 3 talented players we kept were targets who were the key to his recruiting.
Portal recruiting doesn't start at the last minute.
If the argument is that he is handcuffed by soft players, the point is that any player he didn't think fit, he could have removed and filled it with a player who did have at least the personality type he was looking for. He wasn't hired at "the last minute" and although the portal definitely does not "start" at the last minute it does go until the last minute. I would rather hear something else at the end of the game than they reverted back to bad habits. |
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Post by redfeather on Nov 13, 2022 14:24:10 GMT -6
You have to face reality we have Coleman And sparks who are good. Sellers we hope is good then jacobs who is okish. The rest of our roster are turds you can polish them but then their just shiny turds. We play them meaningful minutes at a good school they would barely get off the bench But how many MAC teams have better? How many have as talented a duo as Sparks and Coleman? And then everyone seems to like Sellers. This seems like a pretty good top end of a mid-major roster to me. If you can just fill in with four or five decent players who know and play their role, that's all you need to contend in the MAC. It would be a HUGE boost if Ownes-White comes in and makes Bumbalough a bench player, a role that I think Bumb can fill respectably. And Jocobs is decent. Then you just need two or even one out of Pearson/ Cleary/ Windham/Adams to be halfway decent. This all seems fairly plausible to me...not just dumbass fan wishful thinking. If Lewis has a poor year with this roster...that's a bad, bad, BAD sign. Really bad. Especially if he is not obviously recruiting at such a level as to raise the talent level. Eastern Michigan!!! |
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Post by redfeather on Nov 13, 2022 14:41:57 GMT -6
Let’s face it this loss stings bc 1. It’s a rival game and we want to stick it to ISU every time we can. 2. Even Whit won four of the last 5 against ISU so if that goofball can win like that against ISU then Lewis should crush them bc we want to believe he’s a much better coach although yet TBD. 3. We just came off a stupidly huge win against a grossly inferior team that we had no business playing and we were expecting another win bc we crushed Hanover albeit an inflated ego. 4. Lastly we as a fan base are so starved for a solid bb team that can compete and win more than we lose and we hang on everything probably to much.
So agree I'm going to "try" and be patient with the new coach and team but it won't be easy for me!
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Post by bsu1 on Nov 13, 2022 14:53:31 GMT -6
We did beat ISU 4 of the last 5 but they were lousy teams.
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Post by thebsukid on Nov 13, 2022 15:25:06 GMT -6
I do agree that Boogie must cut down on turnovers; I can handle 2 or 3 per game. I will say had he reduced his turnovers by 4-5 and had we hit a few more free throws possibly the game would have been very close! But we lose by 12 and if Boogie only hits 4 threes instead of 7 we lose by 21.
But, consider this….he hit 7 of our teams 8 three pointers and had 29 plus 4 assists and 4 rebounds with 8 turnovers.
He seems more controlled under Lewis.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Nov 13, 2022 15:51:11 GMT -6
A little more on the media thing. I continue to bring this up cause to me it’s very odd. I can’t ever remember the beat writer getting shut out. The staff did the radio interview as the star press waited on zoom which is fairly common for away games. Someone from BSU then came on zoom and said there would be no access today and the star press would be called for a post game interview. So there I was not a coms issue. The call never came so it does not look like there will be any access until the scheduled normal Wednesday stuff
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Post by BSU Card Fan in AZ on Nov 13, 2022 15:53:39 GMT -6
We’re two games in. Let’s see how we are in January after Lewis has had a team at full health or nearly full health and a month of games in the new system under their belt. As far as Cleary, maybe he just didn’t earn court time in practice this week, or maybe he’s a little dinged up. Exactly. |
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Post by BSU Card Fan in AZ on Nov 13, 2022 16:08:28 GMT -6
This was the first test. He knows they didn’t pass it. Old habits appeared. Question is how long will it take to change their mindset? Is he a good enough coach to get it done? Will these guys totally buy in? Know more by January.
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Post by 00hmh on Nov 13, 2022 16:25:35 GMT -6
We did beat ISU 4 of the last 5 but they were lousy teams. Oddly enough quality of coaching is not the only variable in winning, things like how good your opponents are do count.
A little frustration may be in order, since this game was not up to the optimistic expectations. And I doubt it is a Lewis signature game, we could have played better, I expect we will.
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Post by 00hmh on Nov 13, 2022 16:41:31 GMT -6
That's more than a slight exaggeration...you are right he could have done more. You are right that the 3 talented players we kept were targets who were the key to his recruiting.
Portal recruiting doesn't start at the last minute.
If the argument is that he is handcuffed by soft players, the point is that any player he didn't think fit, he could have removed and filled it with a player who did have at least the personality type he was looking for. He wasn't hired at "the last minute" and although the portal definitely does not "start" at the last minute it does go until the last minute. I would rather hear something else at the end of the game than they reverted back to bad habits. I'd rather hear we won...but I get your point.
The portal recruiting still takes a bit of time for player evaluation, scouting by a staff and so on. He did not have a lot of that. Alternative players in the portal are a bit of a wild card on that personality and fit count too. So, I don't think we should do a lot of second guessing.
I doubt he retained players he considered uncoachable, but he no doubt kept players who were marginal in an ideal world.
This elusive chemistry, toughness, and "personality" factor is one he now has a better handle on with current players after working with them.
A coach is criticized for lack of player development and teaching, and we are way too early to judge that. Silly to do it on 1 game.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Nov 13, 2022 17:08:53 GMT -6
Someone mentioned anti IU. I don’t think any of this is anti IU related but that sounds fun… Screw IU and everything currently involved with them
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Post by coastalcard on Nov 13, 2022 17:45:48 GMT -6
Woodson will end up screwing IU all on his own. Just give it time.
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Post by realitycheck on Nov 13, 2022 19:35:55 GMT -6
Lest we all forget, our coach is a rookie and we’ve got guys trying to get used to playing with Coleman. But Boogie needs to play with some value to the basketball. He typically loses control when he starts freelancing. I didn’t see any of the game but the fact we gave up 80+ points tells me we and he didn’t likely defend well which has been another hallmark of Coleman. I just vividly remember how maddening it was to watch him from game to game. Sometimes he looks like an all American and others he just throws it all over the yard. Sounds like both on Saturday.
I’ve been preaching patience to all my friends who are gaga about Lewis and I need to practice that too. It’s gonna take some time and hopefully we are clicking on most fires when the conference starts.
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Post by cardfan on Nov 13, 2022 19:54:54 GMT -6
We gotta work to change our DNA’s.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Nov 13, 2022 19:58:47 GMT -6
It’s not whit so I’m cool with it
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