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Post by chirprising on Nov 23, 2022 10:50:35 GMT -6
After seeing Kelly play, I'm not as pissed that he didn't play more at quarterback; I'm just pissed that he wasn't on the field all year. Could the coaching staff not see what he does to defenses? He runs with vision, he makes people miss, and he doesn't go down easy. We had nobody else on the field like that all year. And yes, I know defenses would begin game planning for him, but I still believe if you got him on the field and got him the ball in space, he's going to at least make one person miss and you're going to get a nice gain. He would at least been another weapon defenses had to account for? Surely they didn't lose the playbook from 2021 when Justin Hall was on the team. Knowing that they worked with him at receiver, how could you not put him on the field? Maybe that good old Neu loyalty extends beyond Paddock to folks like Jackson and Tyler. Bingo! Coaching malpractice to not develop a Swiss Army knife role forKelly. Simply lining him up in the backfield with Steele could have been game breaking. Instead our offense is designed to have 11 defenders key in on Steele. He’s either going to get stuffed or he’s going to break big runs. On 3rd and 4th and short our oline got stuffed. You HAVE to have a secondary threat on the field with him whether it’s at QB or a two back offense to create some doubt on who’s getting the ball and where it’s going. A 3rd threat should always be a quick short pass to Hunt/Koziol. Just have them turn around past the sticks in short yardage and have them use their big bodies to seal defenders away from the ball. I see the following players leaving for Either playing time or $$: Steele Koziol Barfield pemberton (If Steele somehow stays) at least one underclassman WR. Kelly, if Neu continues to eff him over Cobb or even Blazek a linebacker a d lineman. What we really need is a new OC with an imagination. Or, if Neu is the actual problem, he quits micromanaging and trusts the OC to call a more modern game. I really think Mike coaches out of fear of losing rather than going all out to win. Thus, our offense goes completely into a shell when we have a lead. In fact, Paddock is brutal when we have a lead. He played better trying to bring us back from big deficits. Neu just keeps repeating that “John gives us the best chance to win” as if repeating makes it true. |
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Post by chirprising on Nov 23, 2022 10:52:26 GMT -6
Once again it boils down to coaching and personnel decisions. Will Neu change or not. More of the same next season and the natives will be very restless. Time to look in the mirror coach and go through an self evaluation. One cannot reject change. It is an essential part of life. Not change for changes sake, but change for the better. Do not be afraid of it coach, EMBRACE it. - Neu/Lynch are a 1-2 punch when it comes to all things Ball State football. It's why there is no accountability for Lynch, bad play-calling, underutilization of players, etc. but... ...do not expect any accountability because both of them pull the 'we love BSU because we played here and/or we have a long family history' lever. They are quasi-institutions at Ball State and shrewdly use those relationships to deflect away criticisms of the way they operate and because of this... ...there is a heavy dose of looking over your shoulder amongst the coaching staff. They see a lot of the same issues/problems we see but coaches who have raised these questions in the past seem to disappear including asking... ...why we didn't see Kelly before this game. Do not buy the only excuse Neu/Lynch can offer which is that he wasn't ready. What we saw last night was what he had been regularly doing in practice. Same thing is true in practice for Pemberton. Forget about us as alumni for a moment and our opinions. Nobody in the facility understands why we didn't see more of the two of them in particular. Now if you're unlike most college football coaches and don't care about load management and you want to hand the ball to Steele 30-35 times a game that's a choice you can make because of how great he was but the treatment of Kelly clearly points to... ...two different standards of performance and accountability. It's no accident that the defense is the heart of team even though there is as much talent on the other side...they are coached differently, communicated with more effectively and because they are the defensive guys WANT to play for their coaches. The litmus test to contribute on offense is whether you are a 'tough Cardinal' but that definition seems to change depending on who you are which leads to... ...a very uncomfortable point that you won't like and criticize me for but it needs to be said because it appears to be the truth. African-American players are having a very different experience at Ball State, especially on the offensive side of the ball. Many players feel like there is again a different standard of accountability from offensive coaches and can point to specific situations where they are being treated differently than their peers, on and off the field. 'They are trying to break us' and 'they pick one thing about us they don't like and exclude us' is something they commonly say to each other. How is that acceptable? This is not a one or two player issue but they can't talk to anybody about it because they know they are going to get accused of pulling the race card. So my last point...is how in the world... ...can you look at all of these issues and not look in the mirror and ask yourself some hard questions about the way you're operating? You can disagree with some of the points but are all of these points wrong? How long can you keep looking at all of this and say 'it's not me, it's them?' How can you not look at last night as a coach, especially offensively, and not feel that you failed those players who have given so much to the program. What will it take to change? The natives are past restless...they are pissed. |
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Post by bsu0 on Nov 23, 2022 10:57:30 GMT -6
If what you say about the African-American players is true Neu should be fired TODAY
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Post by cardfan on Nov 23, 2022 11:20:02 GMT -6
The program is effed by Neus paranoia and lack of trust of his players and staff. I really believe that. I think he wants to be right rather than victorious and therefore he’s not gonna let Kelly show him up about sticking with paddock. I think Mike is that thin skinned and shallow. Yeah I’m pissed at him today. A lot. I no longer trust him.
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Post by chirprising on Nov 23, 2022 11:50:41 GMT -6
If what you say about the African-American players is true Neu should be fired TODAY My sense is that if they were ever asked (and could be assured there would not be retribution) the floodgates would open. We'd all be pretty embarrassed as Cardinals. But it will never find light of day because cardfan is right...in addition to being paranoid, Neu could teach a grad school class on guile... |
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Post by rmcalhoun on Nov 23, 2022 11:55:56 GMT -6
Well when your in a town with one beat writer it’s easy to control what comes out. He just wants to get a paycheck so will not fully Rick the boat but he is much better than the previous. I actually got a message on my twitter account asking me to hold off on posting info till game time
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Post by rmcalhoun on Nov 23, 2022 12:00:09 GMT -6
I’d hate to think race is somehow involved but if you look at it with out blinders on you can make the argument
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Post by cardman on Nov 23, 2022 12:04:45 GMT -6
I’d hate to think race is somehow involved but if you look at it with out blinders on you can make the argument |
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Post by universityjim on Nov 23, 2022 12:07:15 GMT -6
This is a very generous take on the coaching staff’s decisions. I would not be as forgiving. This one hurts. I'm not really ready to let it go, either.
Still. The coaches are not idiots...we speculate without much basis about their motives...we second guess...in the end, it boils down to we're in no mood to hear anything but negative.
That's what I am saying.
And you're right. I'm gonna need therapy over this one. |
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Post by cardman on Nov 23, 2022 12:15:57 GMT -6
Over the years, I feel I am mostly vilified when I write my opinion, mostly regarding racial prejudices and comments from forum participants. I see it in my own lens and experiences having seen how life is in Muncie and Indiana in general. I do appreciate the comment that race may have played a role if we look at situations for what they really are, and with no blinders that impact our opinion and judgement. I hope some of my comments could add to the understanding that race does matter in the USA. Read my comment for what it is, and feel ok if you sometimes become uncomfortable with the taboo type terms I might use. It is possible racial prejudice might have played a role on wheather Kiel played this past season.
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Post by BSUMike on Nov 23, 2022 12:55:48 GMT -6
Everyone is free to have their own opinion. I certainly hope race had nothing to do with the decisions on who plays and who doesn’t. If it was, as others have said, Neu and any others in leadership involved in the decision would have to be fired.
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Post by cardfan on Nov 23, 2022 13:10:59 GMT -6
Everyone is free to have their own opinion. I certainly hope race had nothing to do with the decisions on who plays and who doesn’t. If it was, as others have said, Neu and any others in leadership involved in the decision would have to be fired. I honestly can’t imagine it is, but if the players perceive it then ….. |
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Post by rmcalhoun on Nov 23, 2022 13:21:39 GMT -6
We can always talk race. Let’s just not start pointing fingers and saying and start spreading the narrative that BSU is a racist program. No one needs that but it’s not an idea or thought you can simply ignore like I said you can look at it and see how one might think that. On the other side I’ve also talked too many players and parents both black and white who have nothing but great things to say about Mike the person. Is it possible that it’s more favoritism of certain players regardless of color. A grown up version of Daddy Ball we have all seen grown up ?
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Post by cardfan on Nov 23, 2022 13:27:55 GMT -6
I just think Neu has a certain concept of how the position is played and can’t get beyond that and evolve. And if he can’t evolve he’s dead in the water. Like I’ve said many times, he played for Schudel and there’s a certain mindset to what he wants out of the position, especially how it relates to having a 1300 yard RB back there. It’s old school but it’s limited in todays game. But how he lives with paddocks limitations and mistakes I just don’t know.
On the other hand, we make a yard on 4th down we’re not talking about this today. Really need to look at the oline not getting it done late in games too.
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Post by DickHunsaker on Nov 23, 2022 13:36:03 GMT -6
Cardfan, I wish you were the one asking post-game questions. Can we get someone to get press credentials to represent this board? |
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