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Post by cardfan on Apr 11, 2023 12:19:41 GMT -6
I'd agree that Steele became a crutch for an impotent offense. Instead of a balanced offense, it was a lot easier to just hand off and let him run. Receivers couldn't get into any rhythm, and learn to get separation. Pretty much. The more we ran him the less we won. Was that because they lost trust in Paddock, or did Paddock lose confidence because they refused to throw? Or was it just easier for Lynch to keep handing it to Steele? That offense had zero rhythm. If they'd worked kelly in throughout the year, and even had him on the field for that failed 4th down run by Steele late vs Miami maybe we get that first down and win and win one or two more. Just from having some variety and keeping offenses off balance. defenses could play 8-9 in the box and bunch us inside the tackles, cuz, nothing was going outside unless Steele made something happen on his own, and we weren't going to challenge a D by throwing. A LOT has to be different this fall. Quez Cooper will give us a different style back there and Pemberton can be a beast if they let him. Put Kelly with them and we can move the football. I don't mind if Hatcher is the starter as long as Kelly gets meaningful snaps each game. (Hatcher is wasted passing talent if we don't go find some WR in the portal who can play. We got nobody other than TE's) |
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Post by universityjim on Apr 11, 2023 12:59:55 GMT -6
A good OC could do a lot with what we have. The defense would be off balance the whole game. I have no faith that will happen.
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Post by cardfan on Apr 11, 2023 13:45:19 GMT -6
A good OC could do a lot with what we have. The defense would be off balance the whole game. I have no faith that will happen. Lacking a good OC presents problems…, |
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Post by sdacardinal on Apr 11, 2023 14:00:50 GMT -6
This whole neglect of developing and utilizing talent started with hanging in there with Plitt. Paddock was not given the opportunity to play. If he had then his downside would have been exposed and we might not have a wasted season. I thought it was an insult to Kelly by giving him a couple of running plays at the end of a meaningless season. Yeah I agree with the idea that a good creative OC could maybe saved last season by replacing Paddock after or even before it became obvious he was not getting the job done. Kelly not ready last year? I heard that he was tearing it up on the practice squad. Loyalty? Well the coach and Paddock had a job to do and both failed because of maybe a misplaced notion of loyalty. I could be very loyal to someone as we both work toward completing the big picture of whatever. If one of us is faltering then the trust that has been built between us because of that loyalty should be enough to have a realistic conversation about going forward. I hope that the coach did help Paddock find a spot at Illinois
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Post by chirprising on Apr 11, 2023 17:58:50 GMT -6
This whole neglect of developing and utilizing talent started with hanging in there with Plitt. Paddock was not given the opportunity to play. If he had then his downside would have been exposed and we might not have a wasted season. I thought it was an insult to Kelly by giving him a couple of running plays at the end of a meaningless season. Yeah I agree with the idea that a good creative OC could maybe saved last season by replacing Paddock after or even before it became obvious he was not getting the job done. Kelly not ready last year? I heard that he was tearing it up on the practice squad. Loyalty? Well the coach and Paddock had a job to do and both failed because of maybe a misplaced notion of loyalty. I could be very loyal to someone as we both work toward completing the big picture of whatever. If one of us is faltering then the trust that has been built between us because of that loyalty should be enough to have a realistic conversation about going forward. I hope that the coach did help Paddock find a spot at Illinois There was never a rationale offered for Kelly not playing until the very end last year. College football coaches are just notoriously stubborn. But I do think having a new boss and seeing what happened to Lester at WMU (another head coach of his alma mater who played QB) has been enough motivation to make changes on that side of the ball. |
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Post by coastalcard on Apr 11, 2023 19:03:11 GMT -6
With one winning season in seven and a 20-34 MAC record, Neu has had EVERY reason to change something and hadn’t.
We have what we have.
Question will be if the new boss has the career work incentive to step up and do his job.
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Post by CallingBS on Apr 11, 2023 19:28:18 GMT -6
With one winning season in seven and a 20-34 MAC record, Neu has had EVERY reason to change something and hadn’t. We have what we have. Question will be if the new boss has the career work incentive to step up and do his job. This is the no BS assessment of Neu. He's done an incredibly crappy job here save the fluke covid championship season where magically none of our players were ever quarantined. |
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Post by rmcalhoun on Apr 11, 2023 20:29:02 GMT -6
Im still bothered by The moving of Kelly during spring ball then having him get no snaps all year in practice because blazek was the 2. Meanwhile Kelly is lighting up everyone on the scout on the team. Then magically we hear Kelly is going to play tge final game cold after having no snaps all year with the 1 or even 2s. It just seems like the whole situation has been handled wrong
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Post by cardfan on Apr 12, 2023 2:47:48 GMT -6
Im still bothered by The moving of Kelly during spring ball then having him get no snaps all year in practice because blazek was the 2. Meanwhile Kelly is lighting up everyone on the scout on the team. Then magically we hear Kelly is going to play tge final game cold after having no snaps all year with the 1 or even 2s. It just seems like the whole situation has been handled wrong Yeah none of that made sense. It felt like they had no clue what they were doing. |
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Post by david75bsu on Apr 12, 2023 7:26:25 GMT -6
I like Neu, but his record is real crappy! To me it’s this year or we need to see a change. Hate to say it, but only one winning season and lots of pain. If we do change leadership, pretty much the whole crew needs to go as well. Tired of this losing crap. I remember well or explosion into MAC play in the seventies, the eighties, the nineties. After that it’s been mostly a down hill ride. Even with the investment in the stadium, offices, and support facilities. Sort of like basketball, how do we invest in plant and equipment and not staff? You’ve got to have good staff to make the investment in other things pay off! If not, just be honest with the fans! Make the investment in staff your No. 1 priority if you really want success! Love Neu, but his record reflects his ability. Heck, his record prior to coming to Ball State was anything but impressive! But, still love the guy - just not as, our head football coach.
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Post by 00hmh on Apr 12, 2023 8:08:30 GMT -6
Easier to raise money for brick and mortar.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Apr 12, 2023 8:30:44 GMT -6
Neu has been a mixed bag. I agree with everyone his record is bad. But those first three years were spent upgrading a roster that was full of questionable fcs players. Then his first group of seniors win a mac championship. Fluke or not they did it and then went to a another bowl. Its undeniable that our roster is now much better and deeper. That being said we have left multiple wins on the field and our offense is stuck in 1993. Neu has to win this or his seat is going to be very hot. He has to at least get back to another bowl then its in the AD to determine if thats enough.l
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Post by 00hmh on Apr 12, 2023 8:44:35 GMT -6
When 14 million dollar NIL offer to a 4 star QB fell through, there was an answer, Florida lawmakers solved the problem.
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Post by coastalcard on Apr 12, 2023 9:50:44 GMT -6
It is automatic that we give football and basketball coaches a 3 year pass because the previous coach could not recruit. Then we wait 3 more years for their recruits to get in place. Poof, before you know it, you are 7 years into losing more than you win.
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Post by cardfan on Apr 12, 2023 10:46:08 GMT -6
Neu has been a mixed bag. I agree with everyone his record is bad. But those first three years were spent upgrading a roster that was full of questionable fcs players. Then his first group of seniors win a mac championship. Fluke or not they did it and then went to a another bowl. Its undeniable that our roster is now much better and deeper. That being said we have left multiple wins on the field and our offense is stuck in 1993. Neu has to win this or his seat is going to be very hot. He has to at least get back to another bowl then its in the AD to determine if thats enough.l Yessir. I like Mike. I like the recruiting and the energy in the program. We have some kids who can play and they appear to be a close knit group. Family is often a word used. It was thrilling to win the MAC and a bowl game in 20. But, the last two years, with essentially the same team, were very disappointing. Lot's of underachieving and players plateauing. I don't like the lack of imagination in how the offense is called and how players are utilized. You got a Kiael Kelly, you find ways to get him on the field. You got RB's who can make plays, get em on the field. One guy doesn't need to get ALL the carries. Use two back sets. Use more formations and mix up the type of running plays you use. Not just off tackle over and over and over. Totally one dimensional. If you have play makers, you get em out there and find creative ways to get them involved. In all 3 phases. Don't give guys 99% of the snaps just out of loyalty. Loyalty is great, but at some point you have to be honest and make changes if they're needed. What's really concerning is Neu was a QB and coached QB's, yet he's struggled to recruit and play a QB that can consistently play at a championship level and make key plays in key moments. It appears we finally have a QB room full of talent, so getting the right kids on the field at the right time will be the test. I remember some random internet guy predicting Neu would be really mediocre when he was hired. Some of us took issue with that. Well....... |
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