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Boogie
Aug 6, 2023 13:21:57 GMT -6
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Post by CallingBS on Aug 6, 2023 13:21:57 GMT -6
The fact is that, after 1+ year of recruiting/retention efforts by Lewis, the roster is significantly worse than what he inherited from Jim Whitfield. This is a bad, bad indicator. Really bad. Be in denial and make excuses if you must. This is the truth, regardless of departures. His recruiting has been somewhere between meh and really bad. My guess is that the word is out and kids arent into his style. I'm not optimistic about the future. The fact that he was prepared to put the program's keys in the hands of a low character flake like Coleman again speaks volumes to me as well. Regardless of NIL departures he should've been able to attract at least a few mid to high MAC level players in this class. No one jumps out to me. |
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Boogie
Aug 6, 2023 14:28:49 GMT -6
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Post by thebsukid on Aug 6, 2023 14:28:49 GMT -6
Boogie commits to Nebraska
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Boogie
Aug 6, 2023 16:21:56 GMT -6
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Post by rmcalhoun on Aug 6, 2023 16:21:56 GMT -6
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Boogie
Aug 6, 2023 17:37:53 GMT -6
Post by 00hmh on Aug 6, 2023 17:37:53 GMT -6
The fact is that, after 1+ year of recruiting/retention efforts by Lewis, the roster is significantly worse than what he inherited from Jim Whitfield. This is a bad, bad indicator. Really bad. Be in denial and make excuses if you must. This is the truth, regardless of departures. His recruiting has been somewhere between meh and really bad...Regardless of NIL departures he should've been able to attract at least a few mid to high MAC level players in this class. No one jumps out to me. I don't necessarily see an incoming immediate star player, but don't know why you don't believe Mason Jones and Doughty will be mid to high level MAC players. Jalin Anderson will be a mid to high level player right away. Ethan Watts is probably a mid level player having played at that level. All together seem to hit your target.
The other 2 incoming freshmen, Joey Brown, is perhaps a project but has talent, and Zagorsak we don't really Know much about to evaluate. We added a JUCO. We recruited him during the year, I'd guess we have a place for him this year.
Last years 2 freshmen we know little about, even after a year, but last years key recruiting was to retain the players we had.
I don't expect much but Coleman leaving should also open another scholarship.
The NIL departures are what hurt us this year, and probably will continue to hurt us and other MAC schools. Any high level MAC players will have better NIL available as soon as they demonstrate that. It's frustrating but I am not sure how we blame a recruiter for the NIL losses. I am also not sure Coleman is low character for leaving for the money. As a grad transfer he now could complete his third transfer, and he did not know that until after the summer semester apparently. |
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Boogie
Aug 6, 2023 17:44:17 GMT -6
Post by coastalcard on Aug 6, 2023 17:44:17 GMT -6
What BSU game films were the Cornhuskers watching?
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Boogie
Aug 6, 2023 18:39:21 GMT -6
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Post by 00hmh on Aug 6, 2023 18:39:21 GMT -6
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Post by villagepub on Aug 6, 2023 21:02:52 GMT -6
Fred Hoiberg is going to put with Coleman's self-centered attitude? OK |
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Post by 00hmh on Aug 6, 2023 21:25:15 GMT -6
Fred Hoiberg is going to put with Coleman's self-centered attitude? OK We'd be delighted to have that problem. Hoiberg needs him, could outbid us. |
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Boogie
Aug 7, 2023 6:33:38 GMT -6
Post by coastalcard on Aug 7, 2023 6:33:38 GMT -6
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Boogie
Aug 7, 2023 6:35:25 GMT -6
Post by 00hmh on Aug 7, 2023 6:35:25 GMT -6
Lucky for Coleman given the story about their NIL pot of gold. |
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Post by cardfan on Aug 7, 2023 7:00:19 GMT -6
Funny how that magically worked out. |
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Post by villagepub on Aug 7, 2023 7:07:32 GMT -6
Funny how that magically worked out. Luck is when preparation and opportunity intersect. Then, there is poaching where an NIL war chest and an indirect "friend of a friend" contact intersect. |
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Post by rmcalhoun on Aug 7, 2023 8:25:44 GMT -6
Im not going to blame Lewis for the transfers Nil is real and right now its unchecked and crooked. Ill also take it a step further since lewis's arrival there have been at least 2 high level high school recruits that we had ready to conmit until they got a better cash offer. What can you do ultimately Lewis has to figure it out but its not an even playing field right now
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Post by 00hmh on Aug 7, 2023 9:37:01 GMT -6
Im not going to blame Lewis for the transfers Nil is real and right now its unchecked and crooked. Ill also take it a step further since lewis's arrival there have been at least 2 high level high school recruits that we had ready to conmit until they got a better cash offer. What can you do ultimately Lewis has to figure it out but its not an even playing field right now The hell of it is that there may be no way to figure it out. The MAC and other mid majors will be relegated to proving grounds for risky recruits who want the chance to audition for big NIL after they have a good season, or, if we are lucky, two seasons.
The route of taking players who didn't quite make it in the big time, something like Coleman who had a chance in the SEC, is similar. They will want a second chance to rebound from disappointment and then cash in as a grad transfer.
If we are recruiting as a revolving door process with late decisions like Coleman, or decisions like Sparks and Sellers becoming the norm, then traditional "good recruiting" is turned into a real crap shoot. One where you never get all that much payoff by finding or developing a diamond in the rough.
This is an ironic parallel to the one and done world of the big time programs where they recruit top HS talent for one year residence. Except for us, we are recruiting high risk kids who not only never stay around long when they have one year, but also may not ever be much use to us.
Maybe that means that a coach like Lewis can still get good conference results recruiting kids with limited ability and can build teams of no name players. That is a possibility? But doesn't that mean mean mid majors will rarely have much chance to compete with the big schools who start out with their high quality HS recruits, including one and done superstars, and also soon poach the best players who were under the radar, too?
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Post by 00hmh on Aug 7, 2023 9:44:27 GMT -6
Funny how that magically worked out. The rich get richer...
Parity in college BB now becomes parity for those in big conferences with deep alumni pockets.
A MAC school that puts together a good roster may have a potentially dominant roster at that level in their conference, but will be lucky to get one good year before losing their core of players. That's what we may have seen with our roster looking pretty good for the future at the end of last year. Except we didn't get that one year...
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