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Post by realitycheck on Feb 21, 2024 12:33:16 GMT -6
Bunch of bitchers not fans! That’s why i don’t comment bunch of old bitchers. Bunch of old Bitchers...aka BOOB. You've done it again Rusty. Pure gold from gibberish.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Feb 21, 2024 13:28:04 GMT -6
Bunch of bitchers not fans! That’s why i don’t comment bunch of old bitchers. Bunch of old Bitchers...aka BOOB. You've done it again Rusty. Pure gold from gibberish. Boob I love it we are just Badketball Boobs
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Post by williamtsherman on Feb 21, 2024 13:33:15 GMT -6
Particularly when your "rebuilding" results in less talent than you were given initially. The cold hard truth may be that "rebuild" is just not the same animal it always has been. More a case of roulette.
But we really lost big in last years spin of the wheel. The talent lost were upper class players. Lewis had recruited freshmen expecting to have some time to work with them before he lost those veteran players. And after all, Doughty, Watts injury was not in the plan...
He did not do badly in the current crop of newcomers as some say, but did not get home runs either. That would have been required to immediately replace Sparks, Sellers.
Whether we judge him harshly or not on the two freshmen recruited last year late in the cycle, he had retained a good group. Bell, seems much like the miss with Cleary who just did not come around. Brown a project worth taking a swing on may be similar this year, but I doubt Lewis expected much this year, so that remains an open question.
His success obviously depends on good results this year, and probably on seeing one or more of the players on this years roster making a significant improvement. The portal each year is a new spin of the wheel and continuity is having good players two years... The work done this year with Anderson and others who return may pay off, talent level will improve, but putting together a new team every year is going to be every coaches nightmare every year with the portal playing such a big role.
Ah yes, the "roulette" theme. Coaches, you see, are just passive beneficiaries, or alternatively victims, of player retention and recruiting. Shame about BSU and their coaches having bad spins on the wheel 24 years in a row. Damnable luck, that. Given that the retention/recruiting roulette wheel is the primary determinant of winning and losing, maybe we should consider saving money by hiring somebody at minimum wage to run our program? Pure dumb luck could strike them just as easily as these guys we are paying hundreds of thousands of dollars.
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Post by 00hmh on Feb 21, 2024 14:31:36 GMT -6
The cold hard truth may be that "rebuild" is just not the same animal it always has been. More a case of roulette.
But we really lost big in last years spin of the wheel...The work done this year with Anderson and others who return may pay off, talent level will improve, but putting together a new team every year is going to be every coaches nightmare every year with the portal playing such a big role.
Ah yes, the "roulette" theme. Coaches, you see, are just passive beneficiaries, or alternatively victims, of player retention and recruiting. Shame about BSU and their coaches having bad spins on the wheel 24 years in a row. Damnable luck, that. Given that the retention/recruiting roulette wheel is the primary determinant of winning and losing, maybe we should consider saving money by hiring somebody at minimum wage to run our program? Pure dumb luck could strike them just as easily as these guys we are paying hundreds of thousands of dollars. You could be right there.
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Post by david75bsu on Feb 21, 2024 15:22:22 GMT -6
How the hell did we score 70 points. Got me!
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Post by david75bsu on Feb 21, 2024 15:35:24 GMT -6
Unless the coach ditches some of the current roster, he has a 6’7” freshman forward and a 6”4” JC guard coming in next year. We need more strength up front. Not sure that can or will happen. We need everybody back and ready to contribute to make any improvement. Possible, yes. Probable?
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Post by prestonp on Feb 21, 2024 19:49:44 GMT -6
At least Jihad's performance might have him to return next year? Nah, he will be gone.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Feb 21, 2024 20:56:12 GMT -6
I was thinking we have been down on what Lewis has done recruiting wise but Anderson is/was near a top 10 scorer in the mac and Davion is the 6th best by percentage 3 point shooter in the country. I know they are flawed in other aspects but still. It looks like his mistake was taking the freshman he should have went portal for more.
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Post by realitycheck on Feb 21, 2024 21:14:55 GMT -6
I was thinking we have been down on what Lewis has done recruiting wise but Anderson is/was near a top 10 scorer in the mac and Davion is the 6th best by percentage 3 point shooter in the country. I know they are flawed in other aspects but still. It looks like his mistake was taking the freshman he should have went portal for more. I’m fine with our first six we just don’t go 8 deep with quality. I think his bigger mistake was trusting Coleman and not finding a booster to keep Sellers.
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Post by 00hmh on Feb 21, 2024 21:28:03 GMT -6
I was thinking we have been down on what Lewis has done recruiting wise but Anderson is/was near a top 10 scorer in the mac and Davion is the 6th best by percentage 3 point shooter in the country. I know they are flawed in other aspects but still. It looks like his mistake was taking the freshman he should have went portal for more. Finding a good big man with two years would have been better. One year? Maybe. If starter quality. Doughty injured of course was not the plan...Jones looks pretty good. He had to be looking at this and didn't see a good choice, or we'd have skipped on Brown or probably Zagorsak. Both not likely to contribute right away. He had a good transfer guard in Watts, snagged Middleton, the mistake appears to be not pulling the plug on Adams or Bell or both.
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Post by david75bsu on Feb 21, 2024 21:56:47 GMT -6
At least Jihad's performance might have him to return next year? Nah, he will be gone. Hope not.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Feb 21, 2024 22:19:48 GMT -6
Now we have too see what happens. Its always been taboo to tell a kid to take hike. Its unwritten but once you offer a kid the norm has been your here 4 years unless you decide to leave.. Grad transfers are different you have no choice take a grad transfer they are here for two thats written law. Hendricks can come back for another but we have fulfilled our 4 year "promise" fir him..
So Brown, the import, Bell, Doughty and the dude on the end. Does the portal now allow it to be less taboo to tell a kid Sorry not sorry you gotta go? If you go this route especially with in state kids you can cross getting any other kid from that highschool/aau off your list.
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Post by 00hmh on Feb 22, 2024 6:44:03 GMT -6
Anybody know Adams story for sure?
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Post by williamtsherman on Feb 22, 2024 7:42:10 GMT -6
Now we have too see what happens. Its always been taboo to tell a kid to take hike. Its unwritten but once you offer a kid the norm has been your here 4 years unless you decide to leave.. But I also believe there are ways to convince a player that...you know...you might really have a better experience some where else...don't you think? I have no first hand knowledge but I notice how often unproductive scholarships tend to open up over the years.
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Post by CallingBS on Feb 22, 2024 7:44:13 GMT -6
I was thinking we have been down on what Lewis has done recruiting wise but Anderson is/was near a top 10 scorer in the mac and Davion is the 6th best by percentage 3 point shooter in the country. I know they are flawed in other aspects but still. It looks like his mistake was taking the freshman he should have went portal for more. It's kind of weird, because Anderson's offensive stats look pretty good across the board, but something is definitely missing. He fades late in games, but that could be due partly to fatigue. It could also be due to supporting cast. He's single-handedly lost us a handful of games, but he's won a couple of games for us too. Jihad has been pretty bad lately despite still putting up some numbers. I think it's largely due to fatigue, but I also think he's forcing it a lot more...really pressing. Dare I suggest he might be trying to stat pad for a move? Bailey doesn't do anything for me. Up until the NIU game, most of his threes don't come when you really need them. He makes a lot of silly mistakes. My biggest issue with our guards is they just don't seem to be kids who find a way to win, and they're horrible defensively. They'd never play for the better coaches in the league because of those factors alone. Will Doughty ever play or be a factor? I'm starting to have my doubts, as his injury seems to have gotten worse.
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