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Post by williamtsherman on Feb 22, 2024 7:52:51 GMT -6
Anderson strikes me as a player that can score points for a bad team that lacks options, but would not have much of a role on a contending team due to the holes in his game. I can't see Jones as anything but a filler player unless he figures out some way to consistently score points....and I'm not seeing what they way is going to be.
The results of Lewis's recruiting thus far is that he has relied very heavily on Whitford players....something I never imagined would happen with Whitford's successor.
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Post by universityjim on Feb 22, 2024 8:09:51 GMT -6
Bunch of old Bitchers...aka BOOB. You've done it again Rusty. Pure gold from gibberish. Boob I love it we are just Badketball Boobs I like boobs. |
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Post by cardfan on Feb 22, 2024 8:11:35 GMT -6
Boob I love it we are just Badketball Boobs I like boobs. Seconded. |
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Post by cardfan on Feb 22, 2024 8:15:11 GMT -6
I was thinking we have been down on what Lewis has done recruiting wise but Anderson is/was near a top 10 scorer in the mac and Davion is the 6th best by percentage 3 point shooter in the country. I know they are flawed in other aspects but still. It looks like his mistake was taking the freshman he should have went portal for more. It's kind of weird, because Anderson's offensive stats look pretty good across the board, but something is definitely missing. He fades late in games, but that could be due partly to fatigue. It could also be due to supporting cast. He's single-handedly lost us a handful of games, but he's won a couple of games for us too. Jihad has been pretty bad lately despite still putting up some numbers. I think it's largely due to fatigue, but I also think he's forcing it a lot more...really pressing. Dare I suggest he might be trying to stat pad for a move? Bailey doesn't do anything for me. Up until the NIU game, most of his threes don't come when you really need them. He makes a lot of silly mistakes. My biggest issue with our guards is they just don't seem to be kids who find a way to win, and they're horrible defensively. They'd never play for the better coaches in the league because of those factors alone. Will Doughty ever play or be a factor? I'm starting to have my doubts, as his injury seems to have gotten worse. To me it looks like Doughty is favoring his booted foot more now than a few weeks ago. I hope it's not an injury that just will never really heal properly. Sometimes foot injuries can linger for a long time and the player never really gets to become anything. He was obviously still injured when he tried to play early this season. |
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Post by universityjim on Feb 22, 2024 8:21:12 GMT -6
Now we have too see what happens. Its always been taboo to tell a kid to take hike. Its unwritten but once you offer a kid the norm has been your here 4 years unless you decide to leave.. Grad transfers are different you have no choice take a grad transfer they are here for two thats written law. Hendricks can come back for another but we have fulfilled our 4 year "promise" fir him.. So Brown, the import, Bell, Doughty and the dude on the end. Does the portal now allow it to be less taboo to tell a kid Sorry not sorry you gotta go? If you go this route especially with in state kids you can cross getting any other kid from that highschool/aau off your list. Taboo in the past. Things are different now. There is no loyalty anywhere. Players or coaches. Got to look out for yourself. Teams have to be rebuild every year. |
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Post by CallingBS on Feb 22, 2024 8:25:22 GMT -6
Anderson strikes me as a player that can score points for a bad team that lacks options, but would not have much of a role on a contending team due to the holes in his game. I can't see Jones as anything but a filler player unless he figures out some way to consistently score points....and I'm not seeing what they way is going to be. The results of Lewis's recruiting thus far is that he has relied very heavily on Whitford players....something I never imagined would happen with Whitford's successor. I definitely second this. Somebody has to score, even on bad teams. |
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Post by universityjim on Feb 22, 2024 8:26:25 GMT -6
I was thinking we have been down on what Lewis has done recruiting wise but Anderson is/was near a top 10 scorer in the mac and Davion is the 6th best by percentage 3 point shooter in the country. I know they are flawed in other aspects but still. It looks like his mistake was taking the freshman he should have went portal for more. It's kind of weird, because Anderson's offensive stats look pretty good across the board, but something is definitely missing. He fades late in games, but that could be due partly to fatigue. It could also be due to supporting cast. He's single-handedly lost us a handful of games, but he's won a couple of games for us too. Jihad has been pretty bad lately despite still putting up some numbers. I think it's largely due to fatigue, but I also think he's forcing it a lot more...really pressing. Dare I suggest he might be trying to stat pad for a move? Bailey doesn't do anything for me. Up until the NIU game, most of his threes don't come when you really need them. He makes a lot of silly mistakes. My biggest issue with our guards is they just don't seem to be kids who find a way to win, and they're horrible defensively. They'd never play for the better coaches in the league because of those factors alone. Will Doughty ever play or be a factor? I'm starting to have my doubts, as his injury seems to have gotten worse. It's mental with Anderson. Something doesn't go right and he has a meltdown. I think he's got the potential to be a really good player. Mental is his missing piece and that is huge. Jihad is a warrior but he tries to do too much himself. Jones doesn't look to score. He passes up really good shots. He must not be confident in that part of his game at this level. So basically we've got four scoring options when he is on the floor and other teams should see that. We need him to get past that. Middleton I think is a keeper. |
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Post by 00hmh on Feb 22, 2024 9:20:45 GMT -6
I was thinking we have been down on what Lewis has done recruiting wise but Anderson is/was near a top 10 scorer in the mac and Davion is the 6th best by percentage 3 point shooter in the country. I know they are flawed in other aspects but still. It looks like his mistake was taking the freshman he should have went portal for more. It's kind of weird, because Anderson's offensive stats look pretty good across the board, but something is definitely missing. He fades late in games, but that could be due partly to fatigue. It could also be due to supporting cast. He's single-handedly lost us a handful of games, but he's won a couple of games for us too. Jihad has been pretty bad lately despite still putting up some numbers. I think it's largely due to fatigue, but I also think he's forcing it a lot more...really pressing. Dare I suggest he might be trying to stat pad for a move? Bailey doesn't do anything for me. Up until the NIU game, most of his threes don't come when you really need them. He makes a lot of silly mistakes. My biggest issue with our guards is they just don't seem to be kids who find a way to win, and they're horrible defensively. They'd never play for the better coaches in the league because of those factors alone. You nail it on guard play. Agree we do not defend, and Lewis would reduce PT for that if he had a choice. Putting Bell in the game is not going to solve that for example.
Bailey is a guy who could easily improve on that weakness, and if he wants to play after college he has motivation to do it. When Lewis talks about his team not having good BB IQ, defense and shot selection are what he's talking about. Bailey does hit a lot of bad shots, but gets lost on D.
Fatigue is the likely problem with Anderson and Jihad and they would be factors at the end of games a lot more if we had good reserves to give them 5-8 minutes rest second half. They also are the guys who can get their own shots, and if the team isn't moving the ball and playing smart at the end of a game, they are more likely to try to do too much.
This team would not be great but would be winning the winnable games if they had depth. From Day 1 it's been true we needed Doughty and Watts to return from injury and we'd have a rough time as freshmen to learn how to play in more limited roles effectively by the end of the season. All that happens we have a decent year.
Jones has had to play too many minutes, Middleton has improved. They have given very likely more or less what Lewis expected from them.
Zagorsak was a gamble, they couldn't have had much information on, Brown was a known gamble, and probably couldn't be expected to be a break out this year, Bell is like Cleary, doesn't fit, and hasn't adjusted a bit.
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Post by 00hmh on Feb 22, 2024 9:33:02 GMT -6
The results of Lewis's recruiting thus far is that he has relied very heavily on Whitford players....something I never imagined would happen with Whitford's successor. Whitford put together a pretty good roster for Lewis, he had every reason to do that last year.
This year, Jihad has improved as a good recruit would. Give Lewis some credit there, he is now a Lewis player. The rest of the scoring is also from Lewis players this year.
Scoring and offense, I am sure the plan was to have Coleman be a mainstay. Considering his loss we haven't done so bad at that end replacing him.
Where Lewis' recruiting has not been able to get it done is providing depth and defense. We have some athleticism but it is not translating into defensive pressure and we simply make too many defensive errors (Bell, Bailey, Anderson, Jihad). Lewis is frank about the lack of awareness, not keeping the focus on the scouting reports. Fatigue due to lack of depth contributes, and defense is never a strength for HS players coming in or JUCOs as they adjust to D1 play.
I hoped for depth this year, and for players by the end of the year learning what they needed to do on D.
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Post by williamtsherman on Feb 22, 2024 9:55:51 GMT -6
The results of Lewis's recruiting thus far is that he has relied very heavily on Whitford players....something I never imagined would happen with Whitford's successor.
Scoring and offense, I am sure the plan was to have Coleman be a mainstay. Considering his loss we haven't done so bad at that end replacing him.
Yes, we have done bad. BSU has the 224th most efficient offense in the country. Whereas Akron 127, Toledo 60, OU 102. By my standards, our offense is bad. But I guess if failing to contend for a conf championship for 24 years is acceptable to a person, then the offense is just fine. Granted the offense is not as bad as the defense. |
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Post by coastalcard on Feb 22, 2024 10:27:14 GMT -6
(Jones doesn't look to score. He passes up really good shots. He must not be confident in that part of his game at this level. So basically we've got four scoring options when he is on the floor and other teams should see that. We need him to get past that)
Quite obviously, I am not a basketball strategist.
But…... even I know if you only have to guard 4 of the opponents 5 players, you have them at an offensive disadvantage.
Jones will basically only put up a “gimme” shot. Not sure if he is on a short leash or just had NO confidence. He’s not even a threat to drive to the basket and draw a foul.
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Post by comet on Feb 22, 2024 10:40:20 GMT -6
(Jones doesn't look to score. He passes up really good shots. He must not be confident in that part of his game at this level. So basically we've got four scoring options when he is on the floor and other teams should see that. We need him to get past that) Quite obviously, I am not a basketball strategist. But…... even I know if you only have to guard 4 of the opponents 5 players, you have them at an offensive disadvantage. Jones will basically only put up a “gimme” shot. Not sure if he is on a short leash or just had NO confidence. He’s not even a threat to drive to the basket and draw a foul. Pretty much agree. He passes up open shots. Doesn't seem to be a real bad shooter, but just doesn't put it up a lot. I really think offense will come with him. He works so hard on defense, that maybe offense are his "'resting moments". Got to give the guy a ton of credit though, he is being asked to guard our opponent's best players, NORMALLY guards, that he shouldn't be the number one choice to have to defend. |
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Post by 00hmh on Feb 22, 2024 11:57:43 GMT -6
Scoring and offense, I am sure the plan was to have Coleman be a mainstay. Considering his loss we haven't done so bad at that end replacing him.
Yes, we have done bad. BSU has the 224th most efficient offense in the country. Whereas Akron 127, Toledo 60, OU 102. By my standards, our offense is bad. But I guess if failing to contend for a conf championship for 24 years is acceptable to a person, then the offense is just fine. Granted the offense is not as bad as the defense. If comparison to the MAC is the standard we are using, then we're actually above average...4th or 5th. 9th or 10th in defense.
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Post by CallingBS on Feb 22, 2024 12:24:13 GMT -6
(Jones doesn't look to score. He passes up really good shots. He must not be confident in that part of his game at this level. So basically we've got four scoring options when he is on the floor and other teams should see that. We need him to get past that) Quite obviously, I am not a basketball strategist. But…... even I know if you only have to guard 4 of the opponents 5 players, you have them at an offensive disadvantage. Jones will basically only put up a “gimme” shot. Not sure if he is on a short leash or just had NO confidence. He’s not even a threat to drive to the basket and draw a foul. I think confidence and speed of the college game is the issue...His shot looks pure in warm-ups. Plus, he's regularly been guarding the other team's best player. |
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Post by CallingBS on Feb 22, 2024 12:25:21 GMT -6
(Jones doesn't look to score. He passes up really good shots. He must not be confident in that part of his game at this level. So basically we've got four scoring options when he is on the floor and other teams should see that. We need him to get past that) Quite obviously, I am not a basketball strategist. But…... even I know if you only have to guard 4 of the opponents 5 players, you have them at an offensive disadvantage. Jones will basically only put up a “gimme” shot. Not sure if he is on a short leash or just had NO confidence. He’s not even a threat to drive to the basket and draw a foul. Pretty much agree. He passes up open shots. Doesn't seem to be a real bad shooter, but just doesn't put it up a lot. I really think offense will come with him. He works so hard on defense, that maybe offense are his "'resting moments". Got to give the guy a ton of credit though, he is being asked to guard our opponent's best players, NORMALLY guards, that he shouldn't be the number one choice to have to defend. 100%. I like the kid. He's a warrior. |
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